On 1/19/2024 5:02 AM, Tomas Langer wrote:
Helidon currently has around 300 modules with module-info.java. In general, this has improved our module structure and design.
Yet, we are now encountering some major issues related to extensibility.
 I will put down a few points that are problematic, and explain each in detail further in the e-mail (it is quite long, sorry about that).

1. provider implementations cannot be code generated without major problems

Annotation processing is designed to avoid mutating the elements, so it would be a fundamental change to allow mutation of module elements in the annotation processing API. It's on the framework to post-process module-info.class so it has `provides` clauses. The framework can use the ClassFile API to do this.

It's not "weird" for a framework to modify module-info.class to ensure that code in the module has the right execution environment. Another example would be a tool that injects calls to a logging API into user code, then has to post-process module-info.class to add `requires logging.lib;`.

2. the provider interface module MUST be on module path, even if it could have `requires static`

Relaxing module resolution to allow a module to `provides` an interface that it can't access is do-able, but the implications are unknown. It would be unfortunate if resolution succeeded but then unforeseen exceptions occur when faraway code tries to access the missing interface. We'll leave JDK-8299504 open for now, but we would need evidence that a large number of users are finding the current rules unworkable before actively looking at `provides` again.

3. the provider implementation must be public with public constructor
4. duality of definition between module path and class path

These requests for ServiceLoader to (i) support package-private providers and (ii) inspect module-info.class files for `provides` clauses in JARs on the classpath both stem from insisting that modular JARs can be deployed on the classpath without losing functionality. This is a net-new requirement on the module system. It's relatively low risk, but also low reward, so we aren't going to investigate it further.

Alex

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