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Haruki Okada commented on KAFKA-14445:
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[~kirktrue] Oh I was not aware of KAFKA-14317. Thanks.

 

> Is there more involved in your patch that is not in the above PR

 

No.

However, as mentioned in KAFKA-10228, changing error type could be considered 
as breaking change so may need more discussions I guess.

My plan was just requesting metadata update on REQUEST_TIMED_OUT response as 
well, without changing the error type so more trivial.

 

> Producer doesn't request metadata update on REQUEST_TIMED_OUT
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: KAFKA-14445
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-14445
>             Project: Kafka
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Haruki Okada
>            Priority: Major
>
> Produce requests may fail with timeout by `request.timeout.ms` in below two 
> cases:
>  * Didn't receive produce response within `request.timeout.ms`
>  * Produce response received, but it ended up with `REQUEST_TIMED_OUT` in the 
> broker
> Former case usually happens when a broker-machine got failed or there's 
> network glitch etc.
> In this case, the connection will be disconnected and metadata-update will be 
> requested to discover new leader: 
> [https://github.com/apache/kafka/blob/3.3.1/clients/src/main/java/org/apache/kafka/clients/producer/internals/Sender.java#L556]
>  
> The problem is in latter case (REQUEST_TIMED_OUT on the broker).
> In this case, the produce request will be ended up with TimeoutException, 
> which doesn't inherit InvalidMetadataException so it doesn't trigger metadata 
> update.
>  
> Typical cause of REQUEST_TIMED_OUT is replication delay due to follower-side 
> problem, that metadata-update doesn't make much sense indeed.
>  
> However, we found that in some cases, stale metadata on REQUEST_TIMED_OUT 
> could cause produce requests to retry unnecessarily , which may end up with 
> batch expiration due to delivery timeout.
> Below is the scenario we experienced:
>  * Environment:
>  ** Partition tp-0 has 3 replicas, 1, 2, 3. Leader is 1
>  ** min.insync.replicas=2
>  ** acks=all
>  * Scenario:
>  ** broker 1 "partially" failed
>  *** It lost ZooKeeper connection and kicked out from the cluster
>  **** There was controller log like:
>  ***** 
> {code:java}
> [2022-12-04 08:01:04,013] INFO [Controller id=XX] Newly added brokers: , 
> deleted brokers: 1, bounced brokers: {code}
>  * 
>  ** 
>  *** However, somehow the broker was able continued to receive produce 
> requests
>  **** We're still working on investigating how this is possible though.
>  **** Indeed, broker 1 was somewhat "alive" and keeps working according to 
> server.log
>  *** In other words, broker 1 became "zombie"
>  ** broker 2 was elected as new leader
>  *** broker 3 became follower of broker 2
>  *** However, since broker 1 was still out of cluster, it didn't receive 
> LeaderAndIsr so 1 kept thinking itself as the leader of tp-0
>  ** Meanwhile, producer keeps sending produce requests to broker 1 and 
> requests were failed due to REQUEST_TIMED_OUT because no brokers replicates 
> from broker 1.
>  *** REQUEST_TIMED_OUT doesn't trigger metadata update, so produce didn't 
> have a change to update its stale metadata
>  
> So I suggest to request metadata update even on REQUEST_TIMED_OUT exception, 
> to address the case that the old leader became "zombie"



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