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Jorge Esteban Quilcate Otoya commented on KAFKA-15147:
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[~satish.duggana] thanks! Yes, something like tier-lag could help us to achieve 
something similar, though it would only account for outstanding uploads. If lag 
doesn't reduce over period of time, then trigger alert.

Would it make sense to have a tier-retention-lag to account for outstanding 
remote delete operations?

Is tier-lag metric documented on the KIP? I can't find it on the current 
version or Jira tickets. Would be ideal to have it tagged by topic-partition.

> Measure pending and outstanding Remote Segment operations
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: KAFKA-15147
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-15147
>             Project: Kafka
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: core
>            Reporter: Jorge Esteban Quilcate Otoya
>            Priority: Major
>              Labels: tiered-storage
>
> Remote Log Segment operations (copy/delete) are executed by the Remote 
> Storage Manager, and recorded by Remote Log Metadata Manager (e.g. default 
> TopicBasedRLMM writes to the internal Kafka topic state changes on remote log 
> segments).
> As executions run, fail, and retry; it will be important to know how many 
> operations are pending and outstanding over time to alert operators.
> Pending operations are not enough to alert, as values can oscillate closer to 
> zero. An additional condition needs to apply (running time > threshold) to 
> consider an operation outstanding.
> Proposal:
> RemoteLogManager could be extended with 2 concurrent maps 
> (pendingSegmentCopies, pendingSegmentDeletes) `Map[Uuid, Long]` to measure 
> segmentId time when operation started, and based on this expose 2 metrics per 
> operation:
>  * pendingSegmentCopies: gauge of pendingSegmentCopies map
>  * outstandingSegmentCopies: loop over pending ops, and if now - startedTime 
> > timeout, then outstanding++ (maybe on debug level?)
> Is this a valuable metric to add to Tiered Storage? or better to solve on a 
> custom RLMM implementation?
> Also, does it require a KIP?
> Thanks!



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