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John Roesler commented on KAFKA-8315:
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The existing behavior of the consumer is effectively to round-robin the inputs. 
If you're subscribed to A,B, and C, and you request 20 records, and it gets 15 
records from A and 5 from B, then the next time around, it should give you 
maybe 10 more from B and then 10 from C.

I actually think the problem might just be on startup (but would need to 
verify), since we have no visibility into which partitions have been polled at 
all. After startup, the Consumer behavior in addition to the existing pause 
logic should take care of preferring to poll partitions that are empty. If a 
partition is actually empty (we are caught up), then this is what the 
max.idle.time is for. But this ticket seems different, since we never even 
tried to poll all the inputs before starting work on just one side of the 
join.... Or maybe I'm not thinking about it clearly.

The point is, as a functional requirement, it seems like historical joins 
should function properly even with a zero idle time.

> Historical join issues
> ----------------------
>
>                 Key: KAFKA-8315
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-8315
>             Project: Kafka
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: streams
>            Reporter: Andrew
>            Assignee: John Roesler
>            Priority: Major
>         Attachments: code.java
>
>
> The problem we are experiencing is that we cannot reliably perform simple 
> joins over pre-populated kafka topics. This seems more apparent where one 
> topic has records at less frequent record timestamp intervals that the other.
>  An example of the issue is provided in this repository :
> [https://github.com/the4thamigo-uk/join-example]
>  
> The only way to increase the period of historically joined records is to 
> increase the grace period for the join windows, and this has repercussions 
> when you extend it to a large period e.g. 2 years of minute-by-minute records.
> Related slack conversations : 
> [https://confluentcommunity.slack.com/archives/C48AHTCUQ/p1556799561287300]
> [https://confluentcommunity.slack.com/archives/C48AHTCUQ/p1557733979453900]
>  
>  Research on this issue has gone through a few phases :
> 1) This issue was initially thought to be due to the inability to set the 
> retention period for a join window via {{Materialized: i.e.}}
> The documentation says to use `Materialized` not `JoinWindows.until()` 
> ([https://kafka.apache.org/22/javadoc/org/apache/kafka/streams/kstream/JoinWindows.html#until-long-]),
>  but there is no where to pass a `Materialized` instance to the join 
> operation, only to the group operation is supported it seems.
> This was considered to be a problem with the documentation not with the API 
> and is addressed in [https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/6664]
> 2) We then found an apparent issue in the code which would affect the 
> partition that is selected to deliver the next record to the join. This would 
> only be a problem for data that is out-of-order, and join-example uses data 
> that is in order of timestamp in both topics. So this fix is thought not to 
> affect join-example.
> This was considered to be an issue and is being addressed in 
> [https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/6719]
>  3) Further investigation using a crafted unit test seems to show that the 
> partition-selection and ordering (PartitionGroup/RecordQueue) seems to work ok
> [https://github.com/the4thamigo-uk/kafka/commit/5121851491f2fd0471d8f3c49940175e23a26f1b]
> 4) the current assumption is that the issue is rooted in the way records are 
> consumed from the topics :
> We have tried to set various options to suppress reads form the source topics 
> but it doesnt seem to make any difference : 
> [https://github.com/the4thamigo-uk/join-example/commit/c674977fd0fdc689152695065d9277abea6bef63]
>  



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