Hi Mike and others,

I have been out of the JMeter loop for awhile and
would like to start contributing documentation and
eventually code.  (Guess I should first check to see
that my login still works...)

Let me know which areas of the documentation need
updated. I have no problem digging through the code.

Have we finished (started?) the migration to Jakarta
Avalon (right?)?  Before I left, that was the big
thing we were talking about.

Thanks,
Kevin Hammond

--- Mike Stover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Refining, fully documenting, and publishing a
> carefully selected subset of the JMeter API 
> would indeed be a good thing.  I'd love to have the
> time (and ability!).  I have great trouble 
> keeping the user documentation up-to-date in
> addition to writing the code.  Up till now, I have 
> generally relied on the brilliance of developers out
> there to understand my crazy code 
> schemes - which has worked out ok.  I will add it to
> my mental todo list though.
> 
> -Mike
> 
> On 10 Jul 2002 at 16:27, Ilia Iourovitski wrote:
> 
> > Looks like it is time to publish or refine JMeter
> API
> > for "advanced" users like M$ WEB stress tool does.
> 
> > All IDE has limitations and I wonder if Avalon can
> be
> > used as generic component model like M$ COM.
> > 
> > Ilia
> > --- Berin Loritsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > From: Mike Stover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> 
> > > > 
> > > > I would consider such an implementation as a
> new
> > > "protocol" 
> > > > for JMeter.  Currently 
> > > > JMeter supports HTTP pretty well, also
> supports
> > > JDBC and FTP 
> > > > less thoroughly.  New 
> > > > "protocols" have recently been added, such as
> SOAP
> > > and 
> > > > arbitrary Java objects.  
> > > > 
> > > > The value of being able to create Jython
> scripts
> > > that are 
> > > > then executed within the 
> > > > framework of JMeter is obvious - but it's not
> a
> > > replacement 
> > > > for the type of system I'm 
> > > > talking about.  Not everyone who tests
> > > applications is a 
> > > > programmer.  I'd like JMeter to 
> > > > be usable by such people.  Furthermore, why
> would
> > > you want to 
> > > > write you're own regular 
> > > > expression routines and HTTP sampling routines
> if
> > > you didn't 
> > > > have to?  If a Jython 
> > > > protocol were implemented, allowing people to
> > > write arbitrary 
> > > > Jython code to be 
> > > > "sampled", you'd have what you want, plus,
> you'd
> > > have access 
> > > > to some built-in JMeter 
> > > > values.
> > > 
> > > I agree with you to a point.  Keeping in mind
> who
> > > your user
> > > is, we can provide the GUI that builds the
> script
> > > under the
> > > hood.  Either that, or the tests are converted
> on
> > > the fly to
> > > the scripting language in question.
> > > 
> > > Jython is one option, Scheme another (we all run
> > > screaming), and
> > > JavaScript is even another.
> > > 
> > > The important thing is providing the bindings to
> the
> > > languages
> > > in question.  Generative programming is the
> process
> > > of creating
> > > the script, or even java bytecode, as it is
> needed. 
> > > If a
> > > programmer wants native access to the scripting
> > > language, they
> > > are welcome to it.  Otherwise, the test
> > > configuration gets
> > > transformed into the script at runtime.
> > > 
> > > One thing that would really be neat to try is
> the
> > > JESS (Java
> > > Expert System Shell).  It is based on Scheme,
> but it
> > > allows
> > > you to create an intelligent expert system based
> on
> > > the results
> > > as they are sampled.  It can be integrated quite
> > > well.
> > > 
> > > Since all developers have their pet languages,
> we
> > > should devise a
> > > component that takes care of the process of
> bindng
> > > JMeter values
> > > to the scripting engine.  From that point on, it
> is
> > > just a matter
> > > of executing the script.
> > > 
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