I'm ok with that. but I still would like to go through and clean up wiki. peter
On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 12:05:49 +0000, sebb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Having a PDF version of the documentation is a good idea. > If it's not too difficult, we should probably do that anyway. > > As to having the manual on the Wiki, I think there is a danger that > unwanted content could creep in (wiki vandalism etc). Although e-mails > are generated when pages are updated, there's no effective control of > the contents. > > So long as the user manual is left on the Wiki, and not distributed > with JMeter as an ASF product, that probably does not matter. But it > does matter for items that are released by the ASF. > > Sorry, but I'm -1 on moving the manual to the Wiki. > > S. > On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 10:07:26 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > PDF docs will be excelent. Is one file, portable and can be much > > easily prited, then HTML. > > > > Rudolf > > > > ----- PÅVODNÃ ZPRÃVA ----- > > Od: "sebb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Komu: "JMeter Developers List" > > <[email protected]>,"Peter Lin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > PÅedmÄt: Re: [Proposal] - shoot for a new release in 2 > > Datum: 5.3.2005 - 1:04:07 > > > > > Question is, how will JMeter help then work? > > > > > > It's very useful to be able to click ^H while on a test > > > element and > > > have the relevant section displayed. Is there any easy > > > way to do this > > > with a PDF file? How would the index markers be > > > defined? > > > > > > By the way, the XML processing includes automatic > > > indexing and > > > cross-referencing. I suspect most of this would have to > > > be done > > > manually by the Wiki editors. > > > > > > I think the potential benefits are much less than the > > > costs. And I > > > wonder if many users would actually take the trouble to > > > update the > > > manual on the Wiki. > > > > > > S. > > > On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 16:55:14 -0500, Peter Lin > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > well I could always use Acrobat to make a PDF of the > > > > wiki site. or > > > > does that sound a bit much? > > > > > > > > peter > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 16:26:16 -0500, Michael Stover > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > That's a good point. Maybe we could come up with a > > > > > documentation > > > > > download that does just package up a section of the > > > > > wiki. > > > > > > > > > > -Mike > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 21:14 +0000, sebb wrote: > > > > > > If the docs are only on the Wiki, then the > > > > > > built-in JMeter help will > > > > > > stop working, surely? > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we need to provide documentation with the > > > > > > JMeter download, so > > > > > > JMeter can be used on systems that don't have > > > > > > Internet access. > > > > > > > > > > > > If the Wiki documentation can be easily packaged > > > > > > up and included in > > > > > > JMeter downloads, then perhaps it would be OK, > > > > > > but I'm not sure that > > > > > > would be easy. Wiki markup is not HTML... > > > > > > > > > > > > S. > > > > > > On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 15:32:01 -0500, Peter Lin > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > I like the idea of letting the users edit the > > > > > > > docs, since often it's > > > > > > > too much hassle for users to checkout the docs, > > > > > > > make a patch, submit > > > > > > > patch and then we commit it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > peter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 15:20:34 -0500, Michael > > > > > > > Stover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 20:10 +0000, sebb > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > OK by me, with one proviso - would it be > > > > > > > > > easy to optionally generate > > > > > > > > > JMX files in the old format? That should > > > > > > > > > make the transition easier > > > > > > > > > for some. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, I can do that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am intending to create a 2.0.3 release > > > > > > > > > soon, as there are quite a > > > > > > > > > few useful fixes in 2.0. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > S. > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 11:47:03 -0500, Peter > > > > > > > > > Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I'll try to move the webservice related > > > > > > > > > > docs on wiki this weekend > > > > > > > > > > also. along with general clean up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > peter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 11:08:02 -0500, Mike > > > > > > > > > > Stover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I plan on devoting some of my time in > > > > > > > > > > > the next 2 weeks to > > > > > > > > > > > 1. cleaning out obsolete documentation > > > > > > > > > > > in the wiki > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Moving the User Manual from the web > > > > > > > > > > > site to the wiki > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not sure about this at all - why would that > > > > > > > > > help? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because we have a lot of trouble keeping the > > > > > > > > docs up-to-date, and a lot > > > > > > > > of useful user information is split between > > > > > > > > the user-manual and the wiki > > > > > > > > area. If we put it all on the wiki, users > > > > > > > > can update the documenation > > > > > > > > for us (ie, users often learn things about > > > > > > > > the components I don't even > > > > > > > > know/realize - no reason they can't put it in > > > > > > > > the documentation directly > > > > > > > > if it's on the wiki). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Plus, updating the docs becomes easier - just > > > > > > > > change the wiki, forget > > > > > > > > about writing it in xml then transforming it > > > > > > > > to html then uploading to > > > > > > > > apache... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Putting finishing touches on the > > > > > > > > > > > code in CVS HEAD > > > > > > > > > > > 4. 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