On 30/07/05, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2005-07-29 at 08:02 -0400, Michael Stover wrote: > > The Jakarta PMC is not going to allow a JMeter release unless it can be > > backed by 3 Jakarta PMC members. > > <snip> > > this isn't just a jakarta thing but apache wide. > > it is not possible to create an official ASF release without the backing > of three pmc members. for legal reasons, only votes by pmc members can > be binding. (each pmc is a committee and can act on behalf of the ASF: > individual committers cannot.) i know that this isn't how many projects > operated in the past but this change is inevitable. > > the major advantage that this structure gives is that release managers > gain some measure of legal protection (they are acting on behalf of the > ASF) and could be defended by the ASF in any action against them. > > jmeter isn't the only jakarta sub-project which is going to have to deal > with this issue in the next few months but it just happens to have > bubbled to the top first... > > <snip> > > > My personal preference is to make JMeter a top-level project. Jakarta > > wants us out anyway, and it seems inevitable in the long run. Might as > > well get it over with is my feeling. > > i don't think anyone wants to force jmeter to leave (i'm sorry if i gave > that impression). > > the only way to avoid management is for active committers to be pmc > members. that way, normal votes on the jmeter list would be binding > legally and there's no need for any extra layers of management. life > proceeds pretty much as it has done in the past. everyone's happy :) > > the easiest way to achieve this would be for the active jmeter > committers to accept nominations to the jakarta pmc. if the active
OK by me - seems the simplest (minimum effort) solution, assuming we can get enough +1s... > jmeter committers don't feel comfortable with that then they could move > to their own TLP. alternatively, jmeter could ask to join the tomcat I see no pressing need to become a TLP, but I'm not against the idea. > TLP. there is no escaping the need for active committers to sign up as > members of some pmc, though. > S. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
