dears, any update ? On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Sherif Amer <sherif.moh.a...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Kindly find the attached raw data, i am so sorry but actually i need help > and i am new with jmeter :( > > > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 4:46 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 2 September 2011 16:25, Sherif Amer <sherif.moh.a...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > i got the values from the graph and i calculated it and i got the >> population >> > standard deviation, it is totally different from the values which the >> table >> > shows, can you try it please ? >> >> No, I cannot try it. >> >> You have not provided the raw data. >> >> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 3:51 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> On 2 September 2011 15:08, Sherif Amer <sherif.moh.a...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > thanks very much for the response, regarding "The aggregate graph >> does >> >> not >> >> > display the deviation" i calculated it manually :) and it is not the >> same >> >> > one shown in the table. >> >> >> >> So what has the aggregate graph got to do with it then? >> >> >> >> And did you use the appropriate calculation, i.e. population standard >> >> deviation? >> >> >> >> > regarding the bugzilla and the JTL can elaborate more details as it >> is my >> >> > first time here :) >> >> >> >> Bugzilla: http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/issues.html >> >> >> >> JTL is the sample output file; may be in CSV or XML format. >> >> >> >> Without the sample data it's impossible to provide further help. >> >> >> >> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:53 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> On 2 September 2011 13:07, Sherif Amer <sherif.moh.a...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > Hello, i re test the full test plan again and i got strange >> results >> >> for >> >> >> > the average and for the deviation >> >> >> > i have 4 pages and i made 10 request per page so the result is 40 >> >> request >> >> >> > when i show the result in table i got the Average = 142 and the >> >> deviation >> >> >> = >> >> >> > 93 >> >> >> > when i show the result in aggregate graph and i calculated the >> average >> >> >> and >> >> >> > the deviation the results were different from the results on the >> >> table >> >> >> !!! >> >> >> >> >> >> The aggregate graph does not display the deviation, so I don't >> >> >> understand what you mean. >> >> >> >> >> >> > in the graph the Average = 140 and the deviation = 41. >> >> >> > any idea why the results are different even it is same number of >> >> requests >> >> >> > and the same test plan !!? >> >> >> >> >> >> Please provide the JTL results file - but do not send it to the >> list. >> >> >> >> >> >> Create a bugzilla issue and attach the JTL file to that. >> >> >> Make sure you explain what you see in the listeners and what you >> >> >> expected to see. >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:11 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Note that OpenOffice.org Calc has STDEV and STDEVP functions that >> >> >> >> calculate the two different versions of std. dev.; I imagine >> Excel >> >> has >> >> >> >> similar functions. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 1 September 2011 16:06, Sherif Amer < >> sherif.moh.a...@gmail.com> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Thanks very much for the clarification, i will re create the >> full >> >> test >> >> >> >> > scenario and update you. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 3:37 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> On 1 September 2011 15:17, Sherif Amer < >> sherif.moh.a...@gmail.com >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > view result in *table* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> OK, I see - you mean the figure in red at the bottom of the >> >> screen. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I have just written a test using the Java sampler so I can >> ensure >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> >> the correct times are created. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I get the same average, but the deviation is calculated as >> 280, >> >> not >> >> >> 581 >> >> >> >> >> or >> >> >> >> >> 323. >> >> >> >> >> Same if I use the Summary Listener. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The JMeter value agrees with the "population standard >> deviation", >> >> >> >> >> where the sum of square diffs is divided by the number of >> values >> >> >> (i.e. >> >> >> >> >> 4) before taking the square root. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The value 323 results from dividing the sum of squares diffs >> by 3 >> >> (= >> >> >> >> >> 4-1) and then taking the square root. >> >> >> >> >> This is the "sample standard deviation". >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Both are valid interpretations of standard deviation. Perhaps >> >> JMeter >> >> >> >> >> should have used the latter, but it does not. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't understand where the value 581 comes from. >> >> >> >> >> If you still have the raw sample data, perhaps you can create >> a >> >> >> >> >> Bugzilla issue and attach the JTL file with a screenshot of >> the >> >> Table >> >> >> >> >> Listener. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 3:13 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> On 1 September 2011 15:06, Sherif Amer < >> >> sherif.moh.a...@gmail.com >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > Which sampler were you using? >> >> >> >> >> >> > *HTTP request* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sorry, I meant - which Listener were you using? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Which version of JMeter? >> >> >> >> >> >> > *2.4* >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:21 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 1 September 2011 13:56, Sherif Amer >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <sherif.moh.a...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > i made load test for 4 pages and the sample time was >> >> >> >> >> >> 426,1093,1127,921 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > when i showed the result in table >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > The average was 892 which is ok >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Agreed. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > And the deviation was 581 which is totally wrong, if >> you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > calculate >> >> >> >> >> it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > yourself the result will simply will be 323. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Which sampler were you using? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Which version of JMeter? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:48 PM, sebb < >> seb...@gmail.com> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 1 September 2011 13:43, Sherif Amer >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <sherif.moh.a...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > hello !! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > i have question :) does Jmeter calculating the the >> >> >> deviation >> >> >> >> >> >> >> incorrectly >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> in >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > the listener like the table and graphic shapes ? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> What makes you think the calculations are wrong? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Please provide some evidence. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Regards, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Sherif Amer >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> >> >> >> >> jmeter-user-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> >> >> >> >> jmeter-user-h...@jakarta.apache.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> jmeter-user-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> jmeter-user-h...@jakarta.apache.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> >> >> jmeter-user-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org >> >> >> >> >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> >> >> jmeter-user-h...@jakarta.apache.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> >> jmeter-user-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org >> >> >> >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> >> jmeter-user-h...@jakarta.apache.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> jmeter-user-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org >> >> >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> jmeter-user-h...@jakarta.apache.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> jmeter-user-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org >> >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: >> jmeter-user-h...@jakarta.apache.org >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: jmeter-user-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org >> >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> jmeter-user-h...@jakarta.apache.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: jmeter-user-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: jmeter-user-h...@jakarta.apache.org >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: jmeter-user-unsubscr...@jakarta.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: jmeter-user-h...@jakarta.apache.org >> >> >
