Bugs item #869549, was opened at 2004-01-02 21:28
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Category: File Input/Output
Group: v8
Status: Closed
Resolution: Fixed
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Nick Greeves (ngreeves84)
>Assigned to: Miguel (migueljmol)
Summary: Lanthanide complexes as PDB - problems

Initial Comment:
Certain X-ray stuctures as PDB files display well under 
Chime but poorly under Jmol.
I have created a web page to demonstrate the problems 
which range from incorrectly sizing the structure in the 
frame, failing to display the central lanthanide ion, and 
introducing spurious bonds to nearby lithium ions.

http://www.liv.ac.uk/Chemistry/jmol/test2.html

There is a wide variety of software that claims to export PDB 
files but the resulting files are not all the same! It would be 
useful if Jmol was as forgiving as possible.

This represents a significant problem for anyone seeking to 
convert a Chime based site as every structure would require 
careful individual checking.

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Comment By: Miguel (michaelthoward)
Date: 2004-05-14 21:38

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---------------------------- Subject: Re: [ jmol-Bugs-869549
] Lanthanide complexes as PDB - problems From:    "Nick
Greeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:    Fri, May 14, 2004 21:12
To:      "Miguel Howard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Hi Miguel,

Yes, this can safely be closed. It works well with our
lanthanide   structures now.


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Comment By: Miguel (michaelthoward)
Date: 2004-05-14 20:30

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Nick, 

I would like to try to close this bug report ... again :-)

Are the outstanding issues resolved with the current version
of Jmol v10 pre ?

Miguel



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Comment By: Miguel (michaelthoward)
Date: 2004-01-03 03:08

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Glad that v10 works better. 

The hot pink color was chosen to make it easily visible ...
I guess it worked. 

When things show up in pink it is generally because the
atomic symbol is not recognized. 

Please send me the file that is causing you trouble ...
directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am not a chemist ... a two sentence explanation of the
molecule you are trying to work with would be helpful. 

Miguel


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Comment By: Nick Greeves (ngreeves84)
Date: 2004-01-03 00:56

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Indeed I was using Jmol v8 but switching to v10pre4 improves 
things tremendously (and the applet is so much smaller which is 
great for slower connections) - great job!

The only PDB that still has any problems is the first one which fails 
to colour the atoms correctly - Barbie pink!! The freestanding 
application has the same problem.

An unrelated query: Chime allowed "spin" to be set and the 
structure would turn forever which i liked for many of our 
examples. Can this be set in Jmol (and the speed controlled)?

Nick

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Comment By: Miguel (michaelthoward)
Date: 2004-01-02 22:12

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It looks like you are using Jmol v8 ... the current official 
release of Jmol. 

If you are converting existing Chime applications, I strongly 
suggest that you switch to Jmol v10 ... currently in Beta test. 

Goto http://jmol.sf.net/betatest 

Jmol v10 has significantly enhanced .pdb support with an 
explicit goal of being a Chime replacement. 

It may still have troubles with these .pdb files, so please let 
me know how files work with v10. 

Miguel


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