> I spent a very useful day with the International Union of Crystallography
> staff and have looked at ca 60 recent CIFs in detail. The main challenges
> that we face are:
> - symmetry. How do we apply symmetry so that the exact molecule is built?
> e.g. if a water sits on a 2-fold axis, only one O and one H are reported.

I don't understand this symmetry stuff yet.

But I spent a good deal of time with someone on Tuesday who explained a
lot to me about space groups.

> - translation.  By default Jmol moves all the atoms into the unit cell
> (0,0,0)-> (1,1,1).

Q: Do these files have cartesian coordinates or fractional coordinates?

Q: Can you send me a small sample file off-list?

> In fact most authors create a joined-up molecule. Could
> the default be to use the authors coordinates rather than this
> translation?

I do not remember the details, but I *believe* that this translation is
being done for a specific reason ... I suspect something messed-up having
to do with PDB files ... or maybe I just didn't understand what I was
doing when I was working on this.

But when I think about it right now, it makes perfect sense that by
default Jmol should show exactly what is in the file.

Q: What do you mean by 'joined-up molecule' ?

Q: Does anyone know any reason why we should not leave the coordinates
alone ... as in the file?

> - disorder. Many structures have disordered atoms. The authors often
> annotate them, fairly consistently, into disorder groups. Thus just one
> group can be selected. It could be useful to have a visual display that an
> atom had been selected as disordered (perhaps darker or
> semi-transparent?).

Q: What is a 'disordered' atom? (25 words or less)

Q: What do you mean by 'group' in this context?

> Also disordered atoms in different groups should probably never be joined
> to each other

How are 'disordered' atoms denoted in the file.

> I think everyone was impressed with the Jmol display

Good.


Miguel



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