i do now.

On 5/26/06, Bob Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Wonderful. It's the "bob200603" branch.
I rarely mess it up too much these days....

Do you subscribe to the developer list?
If so, I'm moving this to that list.
Bob



eric capps wrote:

> bob,
>
> thanks for your continuing help. every time you answer a question it
> seems to answer about 10 i hadn't thought to ask yet.
>
> is your source for 10.x available? i'd love to see if i can't help add
> anything.
>
> eric
>
> On 5/26/06, Bob Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> [note: this message relates to the experimental prototype "Jmol 10.x" not
>> the public release Jmol 10.2. See
>> http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr/jmol/test/proto/new.htm for
>> details.]
>>
>> eric capps wrote:
>>
>> > bob,
>> >
>> > so if you have 1 model whose atoms you continually change with 1000
>> > atoms you have i = 0 - 999? i may very well end up using this method
>> > instead! let me know if there's any debugging/coding i can help with.
>> > do you still consider these methods "highly experimental"?
>>
>> oh, yeah. We are tapping into core classes directly via JavaScipt.
>> Absolutely no
>> guarantees. Be the first on your block....
>>
>> >
>> > i'm still trying to make the following work properly:
>> >
>> > function loadNext(file){
>> >     jmolSaveOrientation("save1");
>> >     jmolScriptWait("load "+file);
>> >     jmolRestoreOrientationDelayed("save1",0);
>> >     makeNext();
>>
>> var oldOrientation = jmolSaveOrientation("save1").replace(/1/,"0");
>> //changes this to "moveTo 0.0 ...." instead of "moveTo 1.0...."
>> jmolScriptWait("load "+file + ";" + oldOrientation);
>>
>>
>>
>> > }
>> >
>> > you can ignore makeNext(), it just figures out which model to load
>> > next. unfortunately there's still about a 1/10th of a second delay
>> > between when the next file is loaded and when the orientation is
>> > restored. and also, this approach unfortunately does not save any
>> > information from label or render or anything else.
>>
>> THAT's true.
>>
>> i wonder, is it
>> > possible to specify all of these parameters in a "load" statement?
>> > failing that, is there a way to synchronize these commands tighter?
>> > i'd be happy to work on this, but i'm still trying to figure out
>> > exactly how jmol and jmol-new.js work together.
>>
>> keep playing... and asking....
>>
>> >
>> > eric
>> >
>> > On 5/25/06, Bob Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Eric,
>> >>
>> >> yeah, that's it. Starting with 0 and NOT repeating for each model --
>> >> 10 models of benzene would have i=0,1,2,....,i=119. Even if the data
>> >> are coming from different files, that number still just starts at 0
>> >> and runs.
>> >>
>> >> We don't recommend people fiddling with that, but in this case, it's
>> >> an experiment. That's the only reliable tag you have.
>> >>
>> >> It's also the number that's displayed if you use
>> >>
>> >> select *;label %D
>> >>
>> >> It's called the atom "index" number.
>> >>
>> >> Bob
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> eric capps wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > wow, yeah. so does move, save, move, restore (w/out the second
>> save).
>> >> >
>> >> > regarding the jmolSetAtomCoord function, what does 'i' refer to? i'm
>> >> > guessing it's the atom number in the order that jmol read them?
>> >> >
>> >> > On 5/25/06, Bob Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Eric,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I think there's something wrong with the data for the "home"
>> position.
>> >> >> If you  first move the model around and THEN save, move some more,
>> >> >> save, they all work, right?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Bob
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> eric capps wrote:
>> >> >> > bob,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > may be my environment but this isn't quite working for me. the
>> >> restore
>> >> >> > delayed function doesn't seem to do anything at all! does this
>> >> work on
>> >> >> > your end?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > eric
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On 5/25/06, Bob Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> what delay? Oh, THAT delay. Sure. see
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr/jmol/test/proto/Jmol-new.js
>> >> >> >> http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr/jmol/test/proto/new.htm
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> jmolRestoreOrientationDelayed(id,delay,targetSuffix)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> -- id should correspond to same for jmolSaveOrientation()
>> >> >> >> -- delay defaults to 1 second
>> >> >> >> -- can be set to anything
>> >> >> >> -- targetSuffix optional
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Bob
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> eric capps wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > bob,
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > can you think of a way to do a restore orientation w/out the
>> >> delay?
>> >> >> >> > since i'm trying to use it in place of the built in animation
>> >> >> >> > capability, i want it to be able to snap back in position
>> >> >> immediately.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > On 5/23/06, Bob Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Eric Capps wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > bob,
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > i believe i have the most recent version of jmol, but my
>> >> jmol.js
>> >> >> >> >> > doesn't have these functions anywhere in it. the
>> jmol-new.js
>> >> >> on the
>> >> >> >> >> > page you linked me to seems to be older, but it does have
>> >> these
>> >> >> >> >> > functions. what's the deal with that? does my version
>> not have
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> >> > functionality?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> oops, sorry, it isn't older -- it's just that I've ignored
>> the
>> >> >> header.
>> >> >> >> >> the two key files are JmolAppletProto.jar and Jmol-new.js in
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr/jmol/test/proto
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> if you use this, comment out your jmolInitialize() call
>> and have
>> >> >> >> >> JmolAppletProto.jar in the same directory as your HTML page.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > what you are describing sounds very interesting but is
>> >> >> >> unfortunately a
>> >> >> >> >> > bit over my head, as i'm new to both jmol and javascript.
>> >> >> still, i'd
>> >> >> >> >> > like to give it a shot.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > so am i right in thinking that you are suggesting writing a
>> >> >> method
>> >> >> >> >> > which would perform animation by moving an atom or a
>> group of
>> >> >> atoms
>> >> >> >> >> > rather than reading an entire list of coordinates? this
>> >> would be
>> >> >> >> >> > particularly helpful as the animations i am trying to make
>> >> >> typically
>> >> >> >> >> > only have one or two atoms moving at once (out of
>> thousands).
>> >> >> would
>> >> >> >> >> > this be written in the jmol source code or the jmol.js
>> file?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Ah, there you go. Then you are all set! Can you figure out
>> which
>> >> >> atoms
>> >> >> >> >> are
>> >> >> >> >> changing? That's interesting. OK, just for you, Eric:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr/jmol/test/proto/new.htm
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Fun, eh? This should give you some ideas.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> It will probably not work on Macs. What are your parameters
>> >> in that
>> >> >> >> >> regard?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> If you want to change a WHOLE LOT of atom positions,
>> though, we
>> >> >> should
>> >> >> >> >> pass the
>> >> >> >> >> applet a string and let it parse the string for atoms.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Bob
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > -eric
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > On 5/23/06, Bob Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> what a challenge!
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Keeping the orientation after a file load is no
>> problem. Jmol
>> >> >> 10.x
>> >> >> >> >> >> allows the
>> >> >> >> >> >> following:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> jmolSaveOrientation()
>> >> >> >> >> >> jmolScriptWait("load....")
>> >> >> >> >> >> jmolRestoreOrientation()
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> So then the orientation resets to the original. You can
>> see
>> >> >> this in
>> >> >> >> >> >> action at
>> >> >> >> >> >> http://fusion.stolaf.edu/chemistry/jmol/xtalx . There are
>> >> links
>> >> >> >> in the
>> >> >> >> >> >> lower
>> >> >> >> >> >> left panel under "orientation" for "save" and "restore".
>> >> >> These work
>> >> >> >> >> >> across file
>> >> >> >> >> >> loads.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> 10.x also allows proper loading of multiple files. The
>> >> problem
>> >> >> >> you are
>> >> >> >> >> >> going to
>> >> >> >> >> >> run into is that every atom has to be saved individually,
>> >> so you
>> >> >> >> are
>> >> >> >> >> >> looking at
>> >> >> >> >> >> 100000 x (nAtoms) of atoms in memory. Not feasible.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> The better solution, it seems to me, would be to have a
>> >> limited
>> >> >> >> number
>> >> >> >> >> >> of active
>> >> >> >> >> >> frames (say, 10) and then actively CHANGE the atom
>> >> positions as
>> >> >> >> >> >> needed. Think of
>> >> >> >> >> >> the set of atoms as a "buffer" that we are going to
>> fill as
>> >> >> needed.
>> >> >> >> >> >> When the
>> >> >> >> >> >> user is watching frame 3, we are loading frame 2; they
>> go to
>> >> >> >> frame 4,
>> >> >> >> >> >> we load
>> >> >> >> >> >> frame 3. Sort of the way a word processor processes a
>> large
>> >> >> >> document.
>> >> >> >> >> >> It doesn't
>> >> >> >> >> >> have to load the whole thing -- just what you are
>> looking at.
>> >> >> One
>> >> >> >> >> >> would just
>> >> >> >> >> >> fill them as needed and display them in some sequence.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> So, it seems to me, the solution is to have the
>> capability of
>> >> >> >> loading
>> >> >> >> >> >> atom
>> >> >> >> >> >> positions independently of the atoms themselves -- sort
>> of a
>> >> >> >> >> "replace" or
>> >> >> >> >> >> "loadCoordinates" capability rather than a "load"
>> capability,
>> >> >> >> and at
>> >> >> >> >> >> the frame
>> >> >> >> >> >> level rather than the "model set" level. Or, for that
>> >> matter, at
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >> atom level,
>> >> >> >> >> >> not the model level.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> It would only work for situations where the bonding and
>> atoms
>> >> >> were
>> >> >> >> >> >> identical in
>> >> >> >> >> >> each "frame", but I think this is what you are thinking.
>> >> Since
>> >> >> >> all you
>> >> >> >> >> >> need are
>> >> >> >> >> >> the xyz coordinates, the syntax is trivial -- I could
>> imagine
>> >> >> >> >> >> accepting xyz
>> >> >> >> >> >> files, since they are so simple, but one could also
>> >> imagine just
>> >> >> >> >> >> straight x y z
>> >> >> >> >> >> x y z x y z down the line. A very simple reader.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Maybe the syntax would be something like:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> loadCoordinates FILENAME [optional model number]
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Personally, I would drive the whole thing with JavaScript
>> >> >> based on
>> >> >> >> >> >> that sequence
>> >> >> >> >> >> file, and as the frames change and send back their
>> >> frame-change
>> >> >> >> >> callback
>> >> >> >> >> >> message, execute the loads. In fact, if you set up the
>> >> animation
>> >> >> >> as a
>> >> >> >> >> >> loop 1 2 3
>> >> >> >> >> >> 4 5 1 2 3 4 5 1 2 3 4 5, then you get a message back
>> that you
>> >> >> >> are on
>> >> >> >> >> >> frame X any
>> >> >> >> >> >> time. The JavaScript would then call to load frame X+3
>> >> with file
>> >> >> >> Y+3,
>> >> >> >> >> >> and the
>> >> >> >> >> >> animation could just run and run, and the user could
>> twiddle
>> >> >> >> with the
>> >> >> >> >> >> mouse all
>> >> >> >> >> >> he/she wants, and it would just be a gas. They could
>> start,
>> >> >> stop,
>> >> >> >> >> >> rewind, etc.
>> >> >> >> >> >> You would just have to carefully sync the frame loading
>> >> with the
>> >> >> >> >> >> user's trajectory.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Certainly doable. Sound interesting?
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Bob Hanson
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Eric Capps wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> > i'm trying to create a very large animation. it maps the
>> >> >> >> movement of
>> >> >> >> >> >> > around 1000 atoms, over potentially hundreds of
>> >> thousands of
>> >> >> >> steps,
>> >> >> >> >> >> > with as many as 10000 unique states (there are
>> situations
>> >> >> where a
>> >> >> >> >> >> > series of steps repeat themselves many times). i am
>> new to
>> >> >> >> jmol, and
>> >> >> >> >> >> > from the demonstrations it seems that animation only
>> >> works on
>> >> >> >> >> >> > multi-frame files. for hundreds of thousands of steps,
>> >> this is
>> >> >> >> >> >> > unfeasible.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > i have each unique state stored in its own .xyz file,
>> and
>> >> >> another
>> >> >> >> >> file
>> >> >> >> >> >> > which lists the order in which they occur. i thought to
>> >> make a
>> >> >> >> >> >> > multi-frame .xyz of only the unique states and specify
>> >> them by
>> >> >> >> frame
>> >> >> >> >> >> > number when they repeat, but this still creates a very
>> >> >> large file
>> >> >> >> >> >> > (around 100 megs), far larger than i feel it has to be.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > now, i am trying to create a script which uses load
>> >> >> statements as
>> >> >> >> >> >> > necessary to load the next, potentially repeated .xyz
>> file,
>> >> >> but i
>> >> >> >> >> want
>> >> >> >> >> >> > the user to be able to make changes to the view and have
>> >> them
>> >> >> >> not be
>> >> >> >> >> >> > reset every time a new .xyz is loaded. is this
>> possible? if
>> >> >> not,
>> >> >> >> >> does
>> >> >> >> >> >> > anyone have any ideas on how to implement very large
>> >> >> animations?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > thanks,
>> >> >> >> >> >> > eric
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
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>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Robert M. Hanson, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 507-646-3107
>> >> >> >> >> >> Professor of Chemistry, St. Olaf College
>> >> >> >> >> >> 1520 St. Olaf Ave., Northfield, MN 55057
>> >> >> >> >> >> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> "Imagination is more important than knowledge." - Albert
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>> >> >> >> >> Robert M. Hanson, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 507-646-3107
>> >> >> >> >> Professor of Chemistry, St. Olaf College
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>> >> Einstein
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>> >> >> >> Robert M. Hanson, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 507-646-3107
>> >> >> >> Professor of Chemistry, St. Olaf College
>> >> >> >> 1520 St. Olaf Ave., Northfield, MN 55057
>> >> >> >> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> >> >> http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Imagination is more important than knowledge." - Albert
>> Einstein
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
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>> >> >> Professor of Chemistry, St. Olaf College
>> >> >> 1520 St. Olaf Ave., Northfield, MN 55057
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>> >> Professor of Chemistry, St. Olaf College
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>> >>
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>> Professor of Chemistry, St. Olaf College
>> 1520 St. Olaf Ave., Northfield, MN 55057
>> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>
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