Feature Requests item #3202918, was opened at 2011-03-08 06:08
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Category: Interface Improvements
Group: None
Status: Open
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Nick Greeves (ngreeves84)
Assigned to: Bob Hanson (hansonr)
Summary: Radical curly arrows

Initial Comment:
We have had 3D curly arrows for "normal" two-electron reactions for some time 
and they work well.
http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/draw.htm

I notice that there has been almost no discussion on this list about radical 
reactions that involve unpaired electrons and are conventionally represented by 
curly arrows with half a head sometimes called fishhook arrows.
http://chemistry2.csudh.edu/rpendarvis/Radicals.html#homolyt

We are working on representing radical reactions and would like to be able to 
show the mechanisms in 3D with fishhook curly arrows. Could this be done in 
Jmol ?


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>Comment By: Bob Hanson (hansonr)
Date: 2011-03-09 06:51

Message:
Jmol 12.1.39 --
http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-12/Jmol-12.zip

draw arrow {0 0 0} {1 2 3} {4 5 5} ... BARB

turned out to be trivial. 

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Comment By: Nick Greeves (ngreeves84)
Date: 2011-03-09 03:45

Message:
I don't think the view when the arrow is pointing directly at the viewer of
directly away is critical. The current curly arrows don't look that clever
from those directions. But that is OK as the user will simply rotate to see
the full story.

I think for the radical arrows having half a cone and always the "top" if
the arrow is mainly horizontal at the end or the "right" if it is mainly
vertical.

Or maybe a translucent cone for single electrons and an opaque one for
pairs. Or a differently coloured cone. Either might work well and be easy
to implement. One might argue that the translucent idea is also in keeping
with the lower weighting of the representation - fishhook v double headed

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Comment By: Bob Hanson (hansonr)
Date: 2011-03-08 12:12

Message:
Try to think of a nifty way to do this in 3D. Remember that that head could
be pointing straight at the user, or perpendicular to the screen, or
straight away. What would work for that? 

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