Hi Bob,

Hard constraints are indeed being added to Java for applets and JNLP :-(

I think it will still be possible to use self signed applets locally for
development by circumventing this mechanism : a trusted certificate is
nothing more than a certificate issued by a root certificate authority who
is trusted. For a developer, it's probably possible to add your own self
signed certificate in the trusted authorities on your computer...
We'll have to look more seriously into this very soon :-(

Nico


On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Robert Hanson <hans...@stolaf.edu> wrote:

> Kind of a doomsday, I'm afraid.
>
> One of the aspects of this (if I have it right, and I think I do) is that *all
> Java developers who which to build any applet and run it on their local
> installations will have to have trusted signed certificates.*
>
> As far as I can tell, this is pretty much the end of joint open-source
> Java applet development. In order to test your code, you will have to have
> a *trusted* signed certificate. No self-signing. Period. Of course, you
> can still build applications and run them on your computer (go figure!).
> You just can't make an applet. We'll see if that pans out, but from what I
> read, that's the case.
>
>
> https://blogs.oracle.com/java-platform-group/entry/code_signing_understanding_who_and
>
> [By the way, this entire blog is something to take a look at. It will be
> our guide to the next stage.]
>
> This saddens me very much. It isn't just Jmol. It's about the wider
> development community. All except a few will be locked out of contributing
> in any significant way to any Java project that involves applets.
>
> Bob
>
> --
> Robert M. Hanson
> Larson-Anderson Professor of Chemistry
> St. Olaf College
> Northfield, MN
> http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr
>
>
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> it is better to take what answer we get.
>
> -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900
>
>
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