Patrick wrote:

>       As an example of filling a unit cell, see:
>
>               http://macxray.chem.upenn.edu/cells/cell3148b.html

Looks very good.

So, I see from this image that the .pdb file itself contains multiple
copies of the asymmetric unit.

Therefore, I take this as evidence that Jmol should not automatically move
all molecules into the unitcell.

> The researcher who had this structure done (it's a double carborane
> cage bonded to a niobium atom which has a chlorine attached, if
> anyone's interested) wanted to see if there were any interactions
> between CL's on neighboring molecules (sometimes these kind of
> molecules form dimers by forming a CL-CL bond). The model was built  in
> a crystallographic program that constructs all the molecules with
> coordinates between x = -0.5 to +1.5, y = -0.1 to +1.1, z = -0.5 to
> +1.5 and then writes a PDB file.

I see all these broken 'hydrogen' bonds. I take it that this
crystallographic program exported the .pdb file incorrectly :-(

So much for following the pdb spec ... I am going to lose this battle :-(


> The limits on x, y and z can be
> adjusted interactively and, of course, the space group symmetry
> operations are used to build additional molecules starting with the
> asymmetric unit. The advantage of Jmol is that if I drew a hard copy
> paper representation of the packing diagram, the researcher may not
> "see" just what he's looking for, but by rotating the display in real
> time, it's easy for him. Also, certainly, the same thing could be  done
> with many applications (RasMol, CrystMol, WebLabViewer), but  then I
> need to get individual researchers trained in using whichever  of those
> programs they have AND I have to deal with what kind of
> computer they have, etc. By just putting it on my webpage, I avoid  all
> those problems.

Good.


>       I also saw a question about nomenclature of the molecules in
> an extended unit cell drawing. The very popular graphics program
> ORTEP invented a nomenclature many years ago to do this. This
> nomenclature has three parts: XXXYYYZZ. The no. XXX is the number of
> the atom in the asymmetric unit, YYY is a unit cell designation - the
> "central" unit cell is 555; the unit cell translated one unit cell
> length in the negative x direction is 455; the unit cell translated  two
> unit cell lengths in the positive y direction and one unit cell  in the
> negative z direction is 574. Finally, the ZZ no. is the number  of the
> symmetry related position in the space group. Thus, for
> example, atom no. 36 that was produced by the third symmetry
> operation and then moved into the above unit cell is 3657403.

Thanks Patrick. That sounds like exactly the kind of nomenclature that I
was looking for.

Q: The XXX numbers that designate the atom in the asymmetric unit ... do
they start numbering with 0 or start with 1?

Q: Same questions for the ZZ symmetry numbers ... do they start with 0 or
start with 1?



Miguel





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