On 2005-04-27 (10:59) Bob Hanson wrote:

>I put this up at
>
>http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr/temp/jmolaccess/main/
>
>If it's OK with you guys, since I'm not a Mac person, having stirred
>up the waters, I'm leaving this to you to figure out....
>

ok, we know have three separate copies of this.  I'm moving to a new thread to 
handle debugging this: "trouble with Jmol and LiveConnect on OSX."


tim
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>
>
>Philip Bays wrote:
>
>>OK.   Here is my address:
>>
>>http://www.saintmarys.edu/~pbays/jmolaccess/main/
>>
>>
>>I note that on my own server when I go from location 0 to location
>>1I observe the problem.
>>
>>Phil
>>
>>On Apr 27, 2005, at 10:16 AM, timothy driscoll wrote:
>>
>>>On 2005-04-27 (09:10) Philip Bays wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have a somewhat different experience, I think.  Let's try to
>>>>focus in on some specific sites to compare.   I am using the
>>>>following:
>>>>
>>>>http://dev.molvisions.com/debugging/jmolcalls_nocallback.html
>>>>
>>>>www.saintmarys.edu/~pbays/Stereochemistry/Fischer.htm
>>>>
>>>>http://jmol.sourceforge.net/demo/atoms/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>hi Phil,
>>>
>>>I think it is a good idea to focus on specific test sites; in
>>>addition, the code should be as simple as possible.  that way we 
>won't 
>>>start discussing if callbacks are interfering, whether
>>>document.getElementById or document.applets[] are working, etc.
>>>
>>>I have put together a debugging package.  it includes six html
>>>files. they differ in whether callbacks are active, and from where
>>>they call the JmolApplet (same dir, sub dir, and parent dir).
>>>
>>>I propose that we copy these files to a few different servers and
>>>see how they function on different systems.  that way we can
>>>control code differences, access differences, and callbacks as
>>>variables.
>>>
>>>if this is acceptable, I have posted a zip of the package here:
>>>
>>><http://dev.molvisions.com/debugging/jmolaccess/jmolaccess.zip>
>>>
>>>if you have a public www server, you can download and unzip the
>>>folder, then copy it to your server and email me the url to access 
>it. 
>>>once we have a few set up, I'll send a list of them to the list
>>>and ask for feedback from different systems.
>>>
>>>I have the package running on my server now:
>>>
>>><http://dev.molvisions.com/debugging/jmolaccess/main/>
>>>
>>>(the index page is inside 'main' so I can include a parent dir
>>>above main to hold an applet copy.)
>>>
>>>what do you think?
>>>
>>>regards,
>>>
>>>tim -- Timothy Driscoll molvisions - see, grasp, learn.
>>><http://www.molvisions.com/> usa:north carolina:raleigh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I find that if I load any one of the three into a fresh Safari,
>>>>it works but the subsequent loads do not.
>>>>
>>>>I am running 10.3.9 with Java 1.42_05_141.4 on two platforms.  
>>>>On a third, I have the same but I did not apply the most recent
>>>>10.3.9 security and java patches.   It exhibits the same issue.  
>>>>So it is not those updates.  On lab machines, we are running
>>>>10.3.5 with java 1.4.2_05_141.3.  Those machines do not exhibit
>>>>this issue; all pagers load fine sequentially.
>>>>
>>>>On the other hand, Bob looked at  10.3.4 and 10.3.5 machines
>>>>yesterday and they had problems, though it was not clear that
>>>>those problems were the same as this problem.
>>>>
>>>>I would like to hear from some others, including Tim, Bill, Bob
>>>>and I to see if we can tabulate any sort of OS and Java version
>>>>patterns. Can we use these three links as tests?
>>>>
>>>>Phil
>>>>
>>>>On Apr 27, 2005, at 8:14 AM, William Reusch wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Tim,
>>>>>
>>>>>I have just examined the following group of pages, loaded in the
>>>>>order given.   1. A page from our server, a Silicon Graphics
>>>>>platform   2. Your test page   3. A page running on my local Mac
>>>>>4. A different page from our server, using a different
>>>>>JmolApplet.jar   5. Phil's Fischer projection page
>>>>>(saintmarys.edu/~pbays/Stereochemistry/Fischer.htm)   6. Bob's
>>>>>mirror of your test page. The first four run fine, even after
>>>>>recycling through all six in random fashion. The last two load
>>>>>but do not function.
>>>>>
>>>>>Bill
>>>>>
>>>>>timothy driscoll wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 2005-04-26 (16:00) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>UNFAIR!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Bob, Tim , Phil et. al. My finding is similar and yet
>>>>>>>>different. I have loaded Tim's original test page, sandwiched
>>>>>>>>between two pages of mine which use different copies of
>>>>>>>>JmolApplet.jar files on my local Mac, and all pages execute
>>>>>>>>as designed in Safari, even reloading in a random fashion.
>>>>>>>>However Bob's two pages, which I found to perform properly in
>>>>>>>>two earlier tests fail when added to the group. The others
>>>>>>>>continue to function well after this addition. Bill
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>I believe the key here is 'local Mac.'  I have found that this
>>>>>>problem is restricted to server instances, not local
>>>>>>filesystems. so in the first set of three, my test page is the
>>>>>>only server-based example and no failure.  but in he second
>>>>>>set, we have mine plus Bob's pages from different locations,
>>>>>>and failure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>any takers?  ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>J. Philip Bays Department of Chemistry and Physics Saint Mary's
>>>>College Notre Dame   IN  46556 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>
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