On 2005-04-27 (10:59) Bob Hanson wrote: >I put this up at > >http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr/temp/jmolaccess/main/ > >If it's OK with you guys, since I'm not a Mac person, having stirred >up the waters, I'm leaving this to you to figure out.... >
ok, we know have three separate copies of this. I'm moving to a new thread to handle debugging this: "trouble with Jmol and LiveConnect on OSX." tim -- Timothy Driscoll molvisions - see, grasp, learn. <http://www.molvisions.com/> usa:north carolina:raleigh > > >Philip Bays wrote: > >>OK. Here is my address: >> >>http://www.saintmarys.edu/~pbays/jmolaccess/main/ >> >> >>I note that on my own server when I go from location 0 to location >>1I observe the problem. >> >>Phil >> >>On Apr 27, 2005, at 10:16 AM, timothy driscoll wrote: >> >>>On 2005-04-27 (09:10) Philip Bays wrote: >>> >>>>I have a somewhat different experience, I think. Let's try to >>>>focus in on some specific sites to compare. I am using the >>>>following: >>>> >>>>http://dev.molvisions.com/debugging/jmolcalls_nocallback.html >>>> >>>>www.saintmarys.edu/~pbays/Stereochemistry/Fischer.htm >>>> >>>>http://jmol.sourceforge.net/demo/atoms/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>>hi Phil, >>> >>>I think it is a good idea to focus on specific test sites; in >>>addition, the code should be as simple as possible. that way we >won't >>>start discussing if callbacks are interfering, whether >>>document.getElementById or document.applets[] are working, etc. >>> >>>I have put together a debugging package. it includes six html >>>files. they differ in whether callbacks are active, and from where >>>they call the JmolApplet (same dir, sub dir, and parent dir). >>> >>>I propose that we copy these files to a few different servers and >>>see how they function on different systems. that way we can >>>control code differences, access differences, and callbacks as >>>variables. >>> >>>if this is acceptable, I have posted a zip of the package here: >>> >>><http://dev.molvisions.com/debugging/jmolaccess/jmolaccess.zip> >>> >>>if you have a public www server, you can download and unzip the >>>folder, then copy it to your server and email me the url to access >it. >>>once we have a few set up, I'll send a list of them to the list >>>and ask for feedback from different systems. >>> >>>I have the package running on my server now: >>> >>><http://dev.molvisions.com/debugging/jmolaccess/main/> >>> >>>(the index page is inside 'main' so I can include a parent dir >>>above main to hold an applet copy.) >>> >>>what do you think? >>> >>>regards, >>> >>>tim -- Timothy Driscoll molvisions - see, grasp, learn. >>><http://www.molvisions.com/> usa:north carolina:raleigh >>> >>> >>> >>>>I find that if I load any one of the three into a fresh Safari, >>>>it works but the subsequent loads do not. >>>> >>>>I am running 10.3.9 with Java 1.42_05_141.4 on two platforms. >>>>On a third, I have the same but I did not apply the most recent >>>>10.3.9 security and java patches. It exhibits the same issue. >>>>So it is not those updates. On lab machines, we are running >>>>10.3.5 with java 1.4.2_05_141.3. Those machines do not exhibit >>>>this issue; all pagers load fine sequentially. >>>> >>>>On the other hand, Bob looked at 10.3.4 and 10.3.5 machines >>>>yesterday and they had problems, though it was not clear that >>>>those problems were the same as this problem. >>>> >>>>I would like to hear from some others, including Tim, Bill, Bob >>>>and I to see if we can tabulate any sort of OS and Java version >>>>patterns. Can we use these three links as tests? >>>> >>>>Phil >>>> >>>>On Apr 27, 2005, at 8:14 AM, William Reusch wrote: >>>> >>>>>Tim, >>>>> >>>>>I have just examined the following group of pages, loaded in the >>>>>order given. 1. A page from our server, a Silicon Graphics >>>>>platform 2. Your test page 3. A page running on my local Mac >>>>>4. A different page from our server, using a different >>>>>JmolApplet.jar 5. Phil's Fischer projection page >>>>>(saintmarys.edu/~pbays/Stereochemistry/Fischer.htm) 6. Bob's >>>>>mirror of your test page. The first four run fine, even after >>>>>recycling through all six in random fashion. The last two load >>>>>but do not function. >>>>> >>>>>Bill >>>>> >>>>>timothy driscoll wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On 2005-04-26 (16:00) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>UNFAIR!!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Bob, Tim , Phil et. al. My finding is similar and yet >>>>>>>>different. I have loaded Tim's original test page, sandwiched >>>>>>>>between two pages of mine which use different copies of >>>>>>>>JmolApplet.jar files on my local Mac, and all pages execute >>>>>>>>as designed in Safari, even reloading in a random fashion. >>>>>>>>However Bob's two pages, which I found to perform properly in >>>>>>>>two earlier tests fail when added to the group. The others >>>>>>>>continue to function well after this addition. Bill >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>I believe the key here is 'local Mac.' I have found that this >>>>>>problem is restricted to server instances, not local >>>>>>filesystems. so in the first set of three, my test page is the >>>>>>only server-based example and no failure. but in he second >>>>>>set, we have mine plus Bob's pages from different locations, >>>>>>and failure. >>>>>> >>>>>>any takers? ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>tim >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>J. Philip Bays Department of Chemistry and Physics Saint Mary's >>>>College Notre Dame IN 46556 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net >>>email is sponsored by: Tell us your software development >plans! >>>Take this survey and enter to win a one-year sub to >>>SourceForge.net Plus IDC's 2005 look-ahead and a copy of this >>>survey Click here to start! >>>http://www.idcswdc.com/cgi-bin/survey?id5hix >>>_______________________________________________ Jmol-users mailing >>>list [email protected] >>>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users >>> >>> >> >> >>J. 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