In reply to my query about 'save' for automated file production for QT animations,

Miguel wrote:

Save is not yet implemented.

Save to gif will never be implemented.

I will take a look at it.

and Bob Hanson wrote:

David, not to be critical, but why not just use the Jmol applet itself with
real-time scripting, etc. on your site or in your powerpoint? Why go to all this
work making a .mov or .avi file? It will be far smoother.


I welcome Bob's suggestion, although I gather from what's been said on this list that using applets in PP is a Win-only option, and I'm a Mac user.

However I do think the save function is useful, and I'm not just speaking for myself here. First, I'm not a structural biologist, protein chemist or biochemist. I'm a University molecular biologist turned bioinformatician, who is currently working on visualizing the results of a colleague who is a structural biologist. It was he who wanted to know how to make animations for PP presentations. He uses Rasmol extensively and is also keen on having the students script animations and uses them in undergraduate lectures (I personally am not a fan of passive movies in teaching), so when he told me how he had discovered animated gifs as a way of getting an animation into PP I explained that there was a better way (better because you can control it and wind it back to a particular point). He is now a keen user of QT movies in his lectures and tells me that people at his lectures ask him how to do it, and he passes on the instructions. Now, regardless of my own technical ability to do the more interesting and complex thing, this shows that one of the audiences at which Jmol is targetted would need the 'save' functionality.

I've only ever given one PP presentation at a scientific meeting (retired from the bench while they were still using real slides) and that was this April, where I decided to include a couple of short movies to illustrate my website (as I couldn't get a connection for the lecture). My problem was that I didn't think the gifs gave good enough quality, so I used picts (OS 9), however the movies wouldn't play on Windows, so I had to produce two versions. That, and my eventual migration to OS X (I still run both OSs), was the reason I was interested in Jmol's capabilities for scripted 'save'.

David

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