Bob wrote: > Looks to me: [snip] > 3. a given "1" for ANY atom corresponds with a given "1" for any other > atom. I don't see this "multiple independent run" business. Again, that > makes no calculational sense to me at all.
That is what I used to think. > My point is that there are certain reasonable combinations, say "1 with > 3" and "2 with 4" that correspond to a given conformation. But "1 with > 4" makes no sense, because the calculation only gave two conformations, > not "all possible combinations of alternative locations." I do not understand this. > I could be wrong; but if I'm not, it's an easy implementation. There has been discussion about this off-and-on for several years. I also thought that it was easy. But then people on the mailing list said that my understanding was incorrect. Bob wrote: > Miguel, are you SURE there is this "run" business? No, I am not sure :-) But I have gone down this path at least twice over the past few years. Here is my understanding ... You start with a bunch of atoms with ' ' (space) altLoc. The atom locations are unambiguous. Next you have a series of atoms with 'A' altLoc, followed by a series of atoms with 'B' altLoc. These represent alternate branches in the chain. The chain can 'fork' down one of the branches. I made up the term 'run' to describe this. If there is a real/official term for this then I will absolutely stop using 'run' and start using the real term. Next you have another series of atoms with ' ' (space) altLoc. The atom locations are unambiguous. The forks from the previous run have rejoined. Next you have another series of atoms with 'A' altLoc followed by a series of atoms with 'B' altLoc. This is another set of alternate branches in the chain ... another 'run'. Finally we end the chain with another series of ' ' (space) altLoc atoms. The altLocs look like this ' ' ' ' 'A' 'A' 'B' 'B' ' ' ' ' 'A' 'A' 'A' 'B' 'B' 'B' ' ' ' ' and the branching looks like this ' ' ' ' 'A' 'B' 'A' 'B' ' ' ' ' 'A' 'B' 'A' 'B' 'A' 'B' ' ' ' ' So, the question is ... Q: In the general case, can the 'A' atoms from the first run/branch be paired with the 'B' atoms from the second run/branch? Is this a valid confomation? ' ' ' ' 'A' 'A' ' ' ' ' 'B' 'B' 'B' ' ' ' ' I should not answer the question because I would only be repeating rumors that I have heard ... and things that I may well have misconstrued. > What are some more files we can test this on? (1skt is over 30 models and 5 Mb -- any others?) Jmol-datafiles/pdb/1HJE.pdb It looks like to me that it contains 6 (7?) runs with A & B branches. Miguel ------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 _______________________________________________ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users