It seems to me that  it is not a bug if Jmol correctly selects [DA] and 
[A] for group names.
In addition, "select a" correctly selects for adenine, regardless of its 
naming. That is correct as well. That is because not all adenines are 
named "A" even in the standard PDB database.





Angel Herraez wrote:

>On 18 Jul 2007 at 15:22, Eric Martz wrote:
>  
>
>>As part of the PDB's remediation project ( 
>>http://remediation.wwpdb.org/ ), they made changes to the PDB format, 
>>now called version 3. Notably, DNA nucleotides are named DA, DT, DC, 
>>DG, DI while RNA remain A, U, C, G, I.
>>    
>>
>
>Hello. I was also wondering what the "new V3" format would mean in practice, 
>but had not 
>read through any details.
>
>wwPDB documentation at
>http://remediation.wwpdb.org/software.html
>says literally:
>"...software tools that are compatible with the nomenclature that is used in 
>PDB Version 3.0 
>(remediated) and PDB Version 3.1 (data released after August 1, 2007)."
>and the list includes  "JMol V11.2.4"  !!!
>
>  
>
>>So far I have not managet personally to test the consequences of the 
>>remediated PDB format e.g. for FirstGlance in Jmol. However, at least 
>>the change in DNA naming seems likely to me to require changes within 
>>Jmol itself.
>>    
>>
>
>I have quickly tested a couple of files, 1asy.pdb (protein + RNA) and 1bna.pdb 
>(DNA), in 
>remediated format (gzipped), and they give no trouble in 11.2.4
>
>For example, "select nucleic", "select dna" , "select rna"  work in both.
>
>In 1bna, "select a" works, but "select [A]" selects nothing since the residues 
>are named DA; 
>"select [DA]" does work, same as "select a" 
>
>  
>
not a bug.  "select [DA]" is NOT the same as "select a", nor is "select 
[A]" the same as "select a".

>"select t" does not work **this needs fixing**. "select dt" works ok
>       
>  
>
This must be fixed.

"select t" currently selects for nucleic groups having a C5M atom based 
on the likes of:

ATOM    126  P     T A   7       8.081  14.050  11.915  1.00 40.72      
1BNA 188
ATOM    127  O1P   T A   7       8.600  12.894  11.137  1.00 42.53      
1BNA 189
ATOM    128  O2P   T A   7       6.668  13.960  12.342  1.00 46.75      
1BNA 190
ATOM    129  O5*   T A   7       8.239  15.387  11.076  1.00 35.21      
1BNA 191
ATOM    130  C5*   T A   7       7.907  16.635  11.686  1.00 34.88      
1BNA 192
ATOM    131  C4*   T A   7       8.162  17.628  10.598  1.00 31.45      
1BNA 193
ATOM    132  O4*   T A   7       9.543  17.580  10.279  1.00 46.82      
1BNA 194
ATOM    133  C3*   T A   7       7.461  17.284   9.296  1.00 23.76      
1BNA 195
ATOM    134  O3*   T A   7       6.251  18.034   9.162  1.00 44.27      
1BNA 196
ATOM    135  C2*   T A   7       8.532  17.527   8.223  1.00 26.30      
1BNA 197
ATOM    136  C1*   T A   7       9.644  18.209   9.019  1.00 28.96      
1BNA 198
ATOM    137  N1    T A   7      11.021  17.903   8.565  1.00 20.47      
1BNA 199
ATOM    138  C2    T A   7      11.822  18.923   8.176  1.00 28.01      
1BNA 200
ATOM    139  O2    T A   7      11.383  20.077   8.143  1.00 40.01      
1BNA 201
ATOM    140  N3    T A   7      13.119  18.641   7.852  1.00 27.94      
1BNA 202
ATOM    141  C4    T A   7      13.633  17.372   7.882  1.00 15.14      
1BNA 203
ATOM    142  O4    T A   7      14.830  17.222   7.619  1.00 32.54      
1BNA 204
ATOM    143  C5    T A   7      12.781  16.325   8.235  1.00 10.83      
1BNA 205
ATOM    144  C5M   T A   7      13.269  14.902   8.236  1.00 36.33      
1BNA 206
ATOM    145  C6    T A   7      11.465  16.616   8.594  1.00 12.19      
1BNA 207

in the remediated files, this is now:


ATOM    122  P    DT A   7       8.081  14.050  11.915  1.00 
40.72           P 
ATOM    123  OP1  DT A   7       6.668  13.960  12.342  1.00 
46.75           O 
ATOM    124  OP2  DT A   7       8.600  12.894  11.137  1.00 
42.53           O 
ATOM    125  O5'  DT A   7       8.239  15.387  11.076  1.00 
35.21           O 
ATOM    126  C5'  DT A   7       7.907  16.635  11.686  1.00 
34.88           C 
ATOM    127  C4'  DT A   7       8.162  17.628  10.598  1.00 
31.45           C 
ATOM    128  O4'  DT A   7       9.543  17.580  10.279  1.00 
46.82           O 
ATOM    129  C3'  DT A   7       7.461  17.284   9.296  1.00 
23.76           C 
ATOM    130  O3'  DT A   7       6.251  18.034   9.162  1.00 
44.27           O 
ATOM    131  C2'  DT A   7       8.532  17.527   8.223  1.00 
26.30           C 
ATOM    132  C1'  DT A   7       9.644  18.209   9.019  1.00 
28.96           C 
ATOM    133  N1   DT A   7      11.021  17.903   8.565  1.00 
20.47           N 
ATOM    134  C2   DT A   7      11.822  18.923   8.176  1.00 
28.01           C 
ATOM    135  O2   DT A   7      11.383  20.077   8.143  1.00 
40.01           O 
ATOM    136  N3   DT A   7      13.119  18.641   7.852  1.00 
27.94           N 
ATOM    137  C4   DT A   7      13.633  17.372   7.882  1.00 
15.14           C 
ATOM    138  O4   DT A   7      14.830  17.222   7.619  1.00 
32.54           O 
ATOM    139  C5   DT A   7      12.781  16.325   8.235  1.00 
10.83           C 
ATOM    140  C7   DT A   7      13.269  14.902   8.236  1.00 
36.33           C 
ATOM    141  C6   DT A   7      11.465  16.616   8.594  1.00 
12.19           C 

note the significant number of atom name changes. In particular, C5M has 
been relabeled "C7".
This is probably fixable by allowing for C7 OR C5M, but that is not a 
trivial fix.


Is there a full list of the remediated atom name changes?


Bob


>"select au"  does not work 
>
>  
>
"select au" does not exist.

>"select u"  selects thymidines in DNA !!
>
>  
>
because "select t" is not working in that particular case.

>
>So, for the most part, I see that Jmol is taking care of this particular 
>change. We need to 
>make sure, though, that there aren't any other relevant changes in the format.
>
>
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