Pat,

VDW radii are used for many things, not just spacefill. So I'm reticent 
to do any global change to any of these numbers. But, yes, that's an 
issue. Let's discuss it again.

The Jmol code comments state that the values used are from OpenBabel. 
However, when I look at openbabel-2.1.1/data/element.txt, that's not 
what I see. So I don't know what that is about. First, Jmol is not using 
the VDW radii from OpenBabel. Second, some are larger, some smaller; 
they aren't "generally larger" or "generally smaller".

I've also compared Jmol's values to openRasmol. Here's the comparison of 
these three packages:

http://jmol.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/jmol/trunk/Jmol/src/org/jmol/_documents/vdw_comparison.xls

Options include:

a) include one or more optional sets of VDW radii
b) include the option for the user to set individual VDW radii
c) leave as is -- just defining the spacefill as you suggest, one 
element at a time

Bob




Patrick J. Carroll wrote:

>I remember a discussion a couple years ago about the van der Waal's radii used
>in Jmol. There was a feeling that the values in Jmol are somewhat
>"over-estimated". Is there a way that a user can input his own radii? (other
>than using the explcit "spacefill 1.70" every time he wants to draw a van der
>Waals carbon atom). Or, alternatively, can the values in JmolConstants.jave be
>changed to those in, e.g., A. Bondi, J. Phys. Chem, vol.68, p.441 (1964) -
>which, I think, are widely accepted.
>
>
>Pat Carroll
>U of Penn
>Phila, PA
>
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