I really just want to use it as a quick and dirty way of editing molecules without having to script each change -- especially for macromolecules where the general shape can be more important for visualisation than precise bond angles. It's certainly a niche feature and if it's not intended to be a feature in Jmol it's not a problem. I can code what I need into my app quite easily.

On the other hand, there was some chat about enabling some editing features. If this goes ahead, this might be quite a nice feature to include, if only to let the user get the general shape right before running an energy minimisation.

Cheers,
Chris.



Robert Hanson wrote:
ah, ok. I see. Hard to believe this is going to be useful, considering the degrees of freedom. How do you figure it will be used?

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Chris Foley <[email protected]> wrote:
I'm afraid not. It appeared to work when the water molecule was selected. But all the atoms of HOH were selected. When I tried selecting a methyl group (select c13,h16,h17,h18) the whole caffeine molecule was rotated.

In case it helps, I used Windows XP, Sun Java plugin 1.6.0_13 on Internet Explorer.

Cheers,
Chris.





Robert Hanson wrote:
Did it work at http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/new.htm

# 30?


On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 5:54 AM, Chris Foley <[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks for the reply Robert. I downloaded 11.7.33 but unfortunately I can't get the rotation to work. I can translate the atoms as you describe but can't rotate them.

Also, is it possible to change the point the atoms rotate around? The kind of thing I want to do is rotate a group around the atom it is attached to.

Thanks again,
Chris.





Robert Hanson wrote:
It's in there, at least for Jmol 11.7. See http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/new.htm

30. selective atom rotation and translation

# Using set dragSelected in Jmol 11.7.25 you can move selected atoms around, translating them with ALT-SHIFT-LEFT mouse and rotating them around their geometric center using ALT-LEFT or CTRL-ALT-RIGHT. Selection halos are automatically turned on during mouse-drag actions. (Still a few bugs there....)

 load caffeine.xyz;load append water.xyz;frame 0;select 2.1;selectionHalos on
 set dragSelected !dragSelected


On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Chris Foley <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Jmol users,

I would like to be rotate the selected atoms with the mouse.

The rotateSelected command is almost perfect... but only works via
scripting, not mouse interaction.

The "allowrotateselected = true" setting is also close but rotates the
entire molecule, not just the selected atoms.


I was wondering (hoping) if I've missed something that would let me set
this up quickly and easily. If not, no worries. I can write a small Java
application that will do the job.

Cheers,
Chris Foley.

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