On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Rzepa, Henry<h.rz...@imperial.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> I agree its early days.  But what   may impact is that  HTML5 IS intended to 
> replace eg Flash/Java on devices such as the  iPhone.  I am not even sure 
> that even  Android will support eg Jmol at any stage.   Thus the  ChemDoodle 
> page displays perfectly on an iPod touch  (although rotating the molecule 
> without a formal mouse needs fixing).  Can Jmol run at the moment on any 
> mobile device (Android?)

I agree with you HTML5 will replace Flash/Java in some certain use
cases. Jmol need a JVM to run. But JVM is not a necessary for all Java
programms. Google Web Toolkit is a solution. It can cross-compile java
source code into javascript, and run without JVM. I have written a
javascript based 2D structure editor called
jsMolEditor(http://chemhack.com/jsmoleditor). In this way, I think
porting Jmol is possible. But it would be a little painful process, as
GWT uses different drawing APIs(Canvas/VML/SVG).

Talk about performance. jsMolEditor currently works good and fast on
all browsers except IE. It works IE by using VML as drawing API, but
the IE javascript interpreter is very slow, even slow for a 2D editor.
Even iPhone Safari works faster than IE. Glad to see IE will not
include in Windows as default browser anymore, at least in Europe.

> Given that most seem to accept that larger form factor devices (tablets etc) 
> based on mobile phone rather than desktop OSs are on their way,  the Jmol 
> community should at least have a view about whether that expansion is closed 
> to them or not in that area.

There do have some iPhone/iPod touch app for 3D molecule viewing. Here
is one http://www.sunsetlakesoftware.com/molecules .

But I think mobile device support is not the only benefit a javascript
based Jmol would bring. If Jmol could be ported into JavaScript, it
can be integrated into services or websites like Google Wave and
Wikipedia without pain.

Best Regards,

Duan Lian
East China University of Science and Technology

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