On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Rzepa, Henry<h.rz...@imperial.ac.uk> wrote: > > I agree its early days. But what may impact is that HTML5 IS intended to > replace eg Flash/Java on devices such as the iPhone. I am not even sure > that even Android will support eg Jmol at any stage. Thus the ChemDoodle > page displays perfectly on an iPod touch (although rotating the molecule > without a formal mouse needs fixing). Can Jmol run at the moment on any > mobile device (Android?)
I agree with you HTML5 will replace Flash/Java in some certain use cases. Jmol need a JVM to run. But JVM is not a necessary for all Java programms. Google Web Toolkit is a solution. It can cross-compile java source code into javascript, and run without JVM. I have written a javascript based 2D structure editor called jsMolEditor(http://chemhack.com/jsmoleditor). In this way, I think porting Jmol is possible. But it would be a little painful process, as GWT uses different drawing APIs(Canvas/VML/SVG). Talk about performance. jsMolEditor currently works good and fast on all browsers except IE. It works IE by using VML as drawing API, but the IE javascript interpreter is very slow, even slow for a 2D editor. Even iPhone Safari works faster than IE. Glad to see IE will not include in Windows as default browser anymore, at least in Europe. > Given that most seem to accept that larger form factor devices (tablets etc) > based on mobile phone rather than desktop OSs are on their way, the Jmol > community should at least have a view about whether that expansion is closed > to them or not in that area. There do have some iPhone/iPod touch app for 3D molecule viewing. Here is one http://www.sunsetlakesoftware.com/molecules . But I think mobile device support is not the only benefit a javascript based Jmol would bring. If Jmol could be ported into JavaScript, it can be integrated into services or websites like Google Wave and Wikipedia without pain. Best Regards, Duan Lian East China University of Science and Technology > -- > > +44 (020) 7594 5774 (Voice); FOAF: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/rzepa/rzepa.xrdf > Dept. Chemistry, Imperial College London, SW7 2AZ, UK. > > (Voracious anti-spam filter in operation for received email. > If expected reply not received, please phone/fax). > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > _______________________________________________ > Jmol-users mailing list > Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july _______________________________________________ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users