print {*}.xxx

gets you an average.

print {*}.xxx.all

gets you a list.

Or you can use

label %[vdw]

to view them as labels


On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Jeff Hansen <[email protected]> wrote:

> I just tried this using methylfluoride.smol.  If I just do isosurface
> sasurface 0 map mep I get what you would expect.  If I do
> {*}.vdw = {*}.partialcharge.all.mul({*}.partialcharge.all)
> isosurface sasurface 0 map mep
>
> I don't get what I hoped for.
>

what do you get?



> When I then do print {*}.vdw it returns a single value of 0.06260959.
>
> Any ideas what I'm doing wrong here?
>
>
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> On Sep 7, 2009, at 5:52 PM, Robert Hanson wrote:
>
> Sort of a "characature" of ESP. I doubt anyone has tried this. The quick
> answer is "sure, that's possible." What you do is map atomic charge to
> atomic radius. It's pretty straightforward. Something like:
>
> var myscale = 3
> {*}.radius = {*}.partialcharge.all.mul({*}.partialcharge.all).mul(myscale)
>
> that bit on the right makes a list of partial charges and squares them, so
> that you don't have negative radii. If that's too drastic and nonlinear, a
> slightly more involved script could give just absolute values. By equating a
> property on the left with a list on the right, we assign all values at once.
>
> Then
>
> color {*} property partialcharge
>
> Now, if you want a surface, then instead of radius you use van der Waals:
>
> {*}.vdw = {*}.partialcharge.all.mul({*}.partialcharge.all)
>
> and then use
>
> isosurface sasurface 0
>
> to request a solvent-accessible surface with a probe radius of 0 Angstroms
> -- i.e. at the VDW radius, which we have just defined in this curious way.
>
> Could be interesting...
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Jeff Hansen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Everyone,
>>
>> I was talking with a colleague earlier today about nucleophiles and
>> electrophiles and how to visualize these in modeling programs.  Of
>> course one could map electrostatic potential onto a surface.  Often
>> times it is difficult though to clearly see where the nucleophilic and
>> electrophilic sites are in the molecule.  We were wondering if it
>> might be possible to not only map a color to the surface but also
>> adjust the size of the surface according to electrostatic potential.
>> In other words, the higher the potential the further the surface
>> extends from the nucleus up to a limit of the Van der Waals radius.
>> Thus an electrophilic site would not only be appropriately colored,
>> but it would also be larger than sites with little potential and the
>> same for nucleophilic sites.
>>
>> So has anyone ever seen something like this?  Would it be possible?
>> Would it even be desirable or is this something better left not done?
>>
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
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>> DePauw University
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>>
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