David, it's a good point that the best interfaces are obvious and need no
special instruction. Still, the idea behind the frank is subtlety -- to not
take up any significant real estate in an applet and yet to allow access to
the menu when the right mouse is not available, and to provide that feature
to return to the last-opened menu. That is really useful.
Generally in the case of the applet people can add whatever additional clues
they wish -- and they often do. Nonetheless, I have added a hover tip, so
perhaps that is an acceptable compromise. It says, "Click for menu..."
Another possibility short of an actual menu might be an underline -- making
it appear to be a link. That could be all we need.
By the way -- Bitching is always welcome here. But there is no sign of any
such message to the frank from you to the user list or the developer list or
as a feature request or in a bug report or in the form of a patch.
Generally, I find, when a message I have sent is met with deafening silence
it means I accidentally didn't send it.
The frank/popup connection was made back in 2004.
On the other hand, it also could be useful to start thinking about a more
general toolbar across the bottom that incorporates the frank but does more
than that. Just a thought.
Bob
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:57 AM, David Leader <d.lea...@bio.gla.ac.uk>wrote:
> Graeme wrote:
>
> Sorry if this is another silly question but is it possible to remove the
> bottom
> right "Jmol" water mark? Usually these things can?t be removed but I
> haven't seen an open source application do this before. In which case what
> are
> you hoping to achieve by adding it there because at the moment I feel it
> just
> gets in the way.
>
>
> and Angel told him how, but added:
>
> Ah, apart from teh advertising, the Jmol frank is good for opening
> the popup menu by left-click. Further, it opens a reduced menu based
> on the last item used (sort of a shortcut menu).
>
>
> I've bitched about this before, but I think this is bad interface design.
>
> Graeme clearly did not guess that clicking on Jmol brought up the menu
> because it just looks like a trademark. It would therefore be an improvement
> in usability if the Jmol 'frank' (an inkmark defacing your postage stamp,
> rather than a watermark you can only see if you hold it up to the light)
> were replaced by an icon indicating a pull-down menu. Some years ago I
> mocked up one (on the basis of comparison with standard user interfaces) and
> suggested it to this list, only to be met with a deafening silence, even
> though it incorporated the word Jmol.
>
> I can't find the page I mounted it on (or even a copy of my original email)
> but have found the graphic and could mount it again if people were
> interested.
>
> David
>
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