I don't think that the analogy with Chime is that relevant : in the last years of Chime uses we had to face so many problems : lack of compatibility with an increasing number of browsers and platforms, amounts of bugs for which we had to find incredible workarounds (remember the dummy scripts sent prior file loading to resuscitate dead scripts that could be executed strait after file loading ? the messages unscrambling ? the "don't resize your screen !" motto...) and a lack of active development (the incredible pace of Jmol suffers no comparison from that) Iphone and ipad look fabulous to me, but I think that at this stage it is still urgent to wait : some push towards HTML5 and webGL for a no plugin browser and on the other hand google has recently move towards a novel plug-in architecture. @+ Paul
Le 8 avr. 2010 à 13:10, Eran Hodis a écrit : > I agree completely with Henry, and in fact the idea that the world might be > moving away from supporting Java is a very scary thought in terms of our > beloved Jmol. The analogy to Chime's demise is exactly what Jaime Prilusky, > Joel Sussman and I were discussing yesterday when thinking about the > iPhone/iPad lack of Java support. > > Eran > > -----Original Message----- >> From Rzepa, Henry <h.rz...@imperial.ac.uk> > Sent Thu 4/8/2010 1:46 PM > To jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Cc jmol-develop...@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject [Jmol-developers] http://www.xmlvm.org/iphone/ > > If you have not seen it, take a look at http://touchpress.com/ > > The "e-book" contains rotating 3D models, and even Stereo (with appropriate > glasses). > > At the risk of sounding like a broken record (what is the modern metaphor for > this?), I would like to put soundings out again for eg > > http://www.xmlvm.org/iphone/ > > which is a Java to Objective C cross compilation environment for porting > Java to iPhone/iPad. > > If you read http://www.javaworld.com/community/node/3996, the more > pessimistic projections see Java (and Flash) disappearing from the desktop as > well as the mobile device. Whilst this may not happen for a little while, I > continue to wonder what steps the Jmol community might be able to take to > protect its investment. > > I recollect only too well the investment that Eric Martz made in, > effectively, Chime. Whilst that now has been pretty much ported to Jmol (and > enhanced way beyond Chime), that was a relatively simple task compared to > what might face us to move home from Java to some other environment. > > I am not sufficient of a programmer to be able to evaluate > http://www.xmlvm.org/iphone/ and whether it stands any chance of a Jmol port. > Can anyone on the list comment (and I know that iPhone is a closed, > proprietary environment, but then look at the future of eg CML4Word in an > equally closed environment!). > > > -- > > Professor Henry S Rzepa. > +44 (020) 7594 5774 (Voice); http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/rzepa/ & /rzepa/blog > Dept. Chemistry, Imperial College London, SW7 2AZ, UK. > > (Voracious anti-spam filter in operation for received email. > If expected reply not received, please phone/fax). > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > _______________________________________________ > Jmol-developers mailing list > jmol-develop...@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-developers > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > _______________________________________________ > Jmol-users mailing list > Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev _______________________________________________ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
