Bob,

On 9/15/2010 11:47 AM, Robert Hanson wrote:
Charges at atoms have to be summed using q/r for each point on the isosurface. So the values at the surface are different from the values at the atoms (smaller values). For example:

OK, I get it. The first data range in the message is the data range for the computed surface charge points. If I use "color range all," then the following message type is returned:

data range 0.28645405 to 0.5315478 with color scheme spanning 0.28645405
to 0.5315478

The expression "color scheme spanning" takes on the value of the calculated surface data range. If however, in the Jmol script, I set a color range based on the actual atomic charges, then this "color scheme spanning" reports the value of my Jmol script charges. Is this just a message reporting peculiarity? If I want to set an actual range in Jmol script, are the actual atomic charges the values that I should use as my guide?



Right now, Jmol 11 ignores any charges on atoms more than 8 angstroms away from a given point, which doesn't mean much for small models. More significantly, though, Jmol right now creates a "field" of potential around the model and then uses that to map the surface. This isn't really necessary -- you can just pick a surface point and sum all the q/d from all the atoms. I've just rewritten the code for 12.0 and 12.1 to do that and will get that in the next release.

Related to this, I'm not sure that I understand varying Jmol surface dimensions. Am I correct that these are the options for creating a surface to map?

1) Solvent
2) Molecular
3) van der Waals at settable % values

The reason that I ask this is that Spartan creates something called a bond surface map, and I'm trying to translate that into Jmol thinking.

Otis

Bob


On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Otis Rothenberger <osrot...@chemagic.com <mailto:osrot...@chemagic.com>> wrote:


    The data range 0.41223556 to 0.6573585 seems to vary with the partial
    charges, but seems unrelated to the actual partial charges. The result
    below is for "range all" on the allyl cation and benzyl cation,
    respectively. In the snippet above, I was just trying out values other
    than "range all."

     full data range 0.41223556 to 0.6573585 with color scheme spanning
    0.41223556 to 0.6573585

    data range 0.28645405 to 0.5315478 with color scheme spanning
    0.28645405
    to 0.5315478

    All of this is part of my attempt to make Spartan charge numbers work
    well with Accelrys charge numbers. Can you give me any information on
    the origin of these numbers - calculated from my charges???

    Otis

    PS
    Thanks for the feedback on the array question.

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