Agreed. I think this is a wonderful, powerful tool. Just need to be careful
with how students use it in regards to nomenclature. They get confused enough
as it is.
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Jeff Hansen
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
DePauw University
602 S. College Ave.
Greencastle, IN 46135
[email protected]
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On Apr 22, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Otis Rothenberger wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
>
> I'm sorry I brought it up ;-) But I agree wholeheartedly with you. It is not
> a student tutorial response system!
>
> That said, don't let my attempt at a bit of humor distract from the
> tremendous power of this tool. If the "isooctane" response with the wrong
> IUPAC query is indeed not a fluke, I suspect that this was built into the
> system as a feature because of the frequency of IUPAC numbering reversals,
> even by experienced chemists. I picked "isooctane" simply because it is a
> classical student IUPAC naming error.
>
> With this new addition to Resolver, however, there is a student tutorial
> avenue open now that did not exist before:
>
> http://cactus.nci.nih.gov/chemical/structure/4,4,2-trimethylpentane/iupac_name
>
> The real power, however, is quickly translating obscure journal names into
> structures - 2D and 3D.
>
> This brings up an interesting thought: What will Resolver respond to the
> actual query "isooctane?" Does Resolver have a sense of industrial chemical
> history? How will it respond? I'll let you check!
>
> http://cactus.nci.nih.gov/chemical/structure/isooctane/iupac_name
>
> Otis
>
> --
> Otis Rothenberger
> Department of Chemistry
> Illinois State University Normal, IL 61790-4160
> http://chemagic.org
>
> From: "Jeff Hansen" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 2:03 PM
> To: [email protected], [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] New Resolver Version
>
> I guess I'd be a little wary of having my students use this too much. It
> seems to be reinforcing common mistakes. If they can type in an incorrect
> name and still get a structure, they may not understand why their answer is
> not correct. "But professor, the computer gave me the right structure so my
> name must be correct!"
>
>
> ***********************************************
> Jeff Hansen
> Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
> DePauw University
> 602 S. College Ave.
> Greencastle, IN 46135
> [email protected]
> ***********************************************
>
>
> On Apr 22, 2011, at 1:34 PM, Otis Rothenberger wrote:
>
>> It also takes care of our students who don't quite get it!
>>
>> http://cactus.nci.nih.gov/chemical/structure/4,4,2-trimethylpentane/image
>>
>> Otis
>>
>> --
>> Otis Rothenberger
>> Department of Chemistry
>> Illinois State University Normal, IL 61790-4160
>> http://chemagic.org
>>
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