How is that different than what exists? Perhaps in that it is applied
post-rotation? That would make it a bit simpler, assuming the offset can be
large enough to place the label anywhere.

I think I could, with a little ugliness, make the current labels work if
the offset could be > 127. Or, I could use absolute scaling, try to figure
out where the screen boundary approximately is in angstroms, and use that
to draw an arrow from an echo to an atom. Anything that would reduce the
ugliness would be good lol.

Thanks,
James

On Saturday, June 29, 2013, Robert Hanson wrote:

> That's right. There isn't a way to draw from a fixed point on the screen
> to an atom. You might try a recent addition in relation to PyMOL. This is a
> much more general offset method that is used in PyMOL and I needed to
> implement in Jmol, so we have it as well now.
>
> Do give this a try and let me know if it solves your problem:
>
> new feature: PyMOL-like label offset options:
>
>    set labelOffset [sx, sy, sz]
>    set labelOffset [mode, sx, sy, sz, ax, ay, az]
>
>  where
>
>    sx,sy,sz are screen coord offsets
>                    -- in Angstroms
>                 -- applied after view rotation
>                 -- sy > 0 LOWERS label
>    ax,ay,az are xyz position (in Angstroms; applied before view rotation)
>    mode == 1 indicates xyz position is an offset to the atom position
>    mode != 1 indicates xyz position is absolute
>    defaults: mode == 1; ax = ay = az = 0
>
> Note that those sx sy sz are not in pixels, they are in angstroms. Also, I
> note that there is a bug that disallows label pointers with this sort of
> offset. Hmm....
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 1:50 PM, James <[email protected]<javascript:_e({}, 
> 'cvml', '[email protected]');>
> > wrote:
>
>> Thanks Angel. I see that echo has almost everything. But, the reason I
>> was trying to use labels is because they can have a line to an atom. After
>> reviewing "draw ARROW" in the hopes that it could substitute for that line,
>> I don't see that it is possible to draw from a 2D point (e.g., top left) to
>> a 3D point (an atom). I tried assigning echo an ID and drawing from that to
>> an atom, but (as I suspected - just hoping I could trick it) since echo
>> isn't a draw object it doesn't work. I can't find a way to bridge that
>> 2D/3D coordinate issue, which label does automatically.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> James
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, June 29, 2013, Angel Herráez wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, James
>>>
>>> By definition, labels are attached to atoms. That is why the distance
>>> cannot
>>> be long.
>>> >From your description, I don't think that labels are what you need. You
>>> have
>>> "echo" for positioning text either in 2D screen space or in 3D molecular
>>> coordinates, at arbitrary positions and with chosen alignment, even
>>> multi-line.
>>>
>>> e.g.
>>>
>>> set echo myEcho1 0 50%; echo Hello;
>>>   // windowLeft+windowMiddle, left flushed
>>> set echo myEcho2 0 100%; echo Good Bye;
>>>   // windowLeft+windowTop, left flushed
>>> set echo myEcho3 15% 85%; set echo center; echo Another;
>>>   // close to windowLeft+windowTop, center-justified
>>> // note that text will never go out of screen, it will flush to the edge
>>> if needed
>>>
>>> set echo myEcho4 0 100%; echo First Line;
>>> set echo myEcho5 0 100%; echo "|Second Line";  //no overlap due to the
>>> initial newline (|)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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