On 08/05/2014 06:50 PM, Rzepa, Henry S wrote:
> Can anyone help with this mystery.
>
> If  I open a web page using a properly signed  Java applet (from Bob), I get 
> a dialog (OS X Mavericks, Safari, Java 7.67) which says
>
> Web site: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk
> Application: UNKNOWN   (why unknown, its properly signed!)
> Publisher: UNKOWNN  (no they are not!
> Check box “Do not show this again for this app and web site” is checked
>
> The trouble is that this check box is entirely ignored.  Next time the app 
> loads, up pops this dialog again.
> If you want to see if this can be replicated, try it at  
> http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/rzepa/cub2jvxl/
>
> (PS using 14.0.1 for the above.  14.2.4 does not work with the file dialog 
> request to load a cube file from a local disk).
>
> By the way if I accidentally press  “Do not allow” instead of “allow” the 
> site is entirely disabled permanently on that computer,  and I cannot get it 
> to  ever work again (despite browser cache purges, restarts, etc. ).  If only 
>  I knew where the file was which remembers this (accidentally entered) 
> information,  I could delete it, but try as I might  I cannot find it!  Nor 
> does editing the  Exception site list help either.
>
> Java, to quote  Steve Jobs, is a bag of hurt, and hurting more and more.  But 
> I need it to eg generate isosurfaces from (often  500 Mbyte) cube files.
>
You could try to look in Safari in the 'Security' tab of the 'Settings' 
dialog. After I allowed the applet from your example page your site 
appeared there in the list.
On my MacBook (OS X Mavericks; Java &,67, first time installation) 
'UNKNOWN' was replaced with the proper names in the dialogs for your Site.

There was an extra dialog from Safari, asking for permission that the 
page 'http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/rzepa/cub2jvxl/' can take control of the 
Jmol applet. I have never seen this before on Firefox or Chrome.
I also got the same question for our own Jmol-based viewer 
(http://jena3d.fli-leibniz.de) using Jmol 14.0.5. But in contrast to 
your site I had to put our site first manually into the list under 
'Settings->Security' until it was even tried to run Jmol.
So it seems that at least in Safari it has become even more scary for a 
user to run a Java applet despite using a properly signed applet.

Regards,
Rolf


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