On 9/13/2012 2:59 PM, Eamonn McManus wrote:
If at all possible, it would be better to split out
ConstructorProperties into a separable dependency so that JMX could
depend on just that. The idea that a profile with JMX but not
JavaBeans is almost but not quite exactly like a profile with both
seems rather user-hostile.
The current jdk modularization is being done that way.  java.beans is
split between the base module and the desktop module and
ConstructorProperties is included in the base.  We're working on addressing
the split package issue so that the platform can be modularized cleanly.
That's the motivation for this bug fix.
I'm not sure I fully understand. Are there no other cases where
packages are split across modules?

Our goal is to remove all split packages.

I'm wondering how important it is
to avoid this particular split since it seems to me to introduce a
subtle irregularity into JMX that could make things hard for users of
the API.

The cross-version scenarios you describe seem very unlikely since the
MXBean API and @ConstructorProperties were added to the JRE at the
same time.

So I probably misunderstand the use cases for allowing any @ConstructorProperties annotation, regardless of what package. Can you elaborate on that?

Thanks
Mandy


I don't think it would help much to introduce a new
@javax.management.PropertyNames or whatever, because you would still
have to support existing code that uses @ConstructorProperties.

Éamonn


On 13 September 2012 14:45, Mandy Chung<mandy.ch...@oracle.com>  wrote:
Hi Eamonn,

Thanks for the review and the information.


On 9/13/2012 9:48 AM, Eamonn McManus wrote:
If at all possible, it would be better to split out
ConstructorProperties into a separable dependency so that JMX could
depend on just that. The idea that a profile with JMX but not
JavaBeans is almost but not quite exactly like a profile with both
seems rather user-hostile.

The current jdk modularization is being done that way.  java.beans is
split between the base module and the desktop module and
ConstructorProperties is included in the base.  We're working on addressing
the split package issue so that the platform can be modularized cleanly.
That's the motivation for this bug fix.


If it is not possible to make that separation then the method
CompositeBuilderViaConstructor.applicable should return immediately if
constructorPropertiesClass == null, with an explanation string like
"@ConstructorProperties annotation not available". That will produce a
better exception message than the "no constructor has
@ConstructorProperties annotation" that the code will produce as it
stands even if constructors do have that annotation.

Good idea.  I have fixed that.

On line 1161 you could write valueMethod.invoke(a) instead of
valueMethod.invoke(a, new Object[0]).

Fixed and the updated webrev is at:
    http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~mchung/jdk8/webrevs/7198070/webrev.01/


We faced a similar problem in the past where standalone JMX might be
running on a Java version that did not have
java.beans.ConstructorProperties. At that time we considered
specifying that any @ConstructorProperties annotation, regardless of
what package it came from, would have the same effect. Since you are
accessing the annotation by reflection anyway it might be time to
resuscitate this idea. Then users could at least insulate themselves
from no-JavaBeans breakage by using their own definition of
@ConstructorProperties.

I see two scenarios:
1. the application being instrumented is running on an older version of
JRE
2. the jmx client accessing the model-specific types from a JVM being
managed running 2 different versions of JRE

This raises an interesting question - if @CP is part of the standalone JMX
(e.g. javax.management.PropertyNames), would that issue exist?  Alan and I
have asked ourselves if we need to bring back javax.management.PropertyNames
but it wasn't clear to us.  Your feedback and any information/requirement
info from the past relevant to this will be valuable.  I'll file a separate
RFE for it once the requirement becomes clear that the jmx/serviceability
team can follow up.

I'd like to get the fix to eliminate the dependency into jdk8 separated
from this RFE.

Thanks
Mandy

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