Hi Lazlo,

I'm with you on the 'too much text' front - but I believe that until
Jokosher is mostly stable, recovery options should be available in an
obvious fashion.

I would suggest that 'display recovery options on startup' is an optional
feature, with a default of 'on'. In the recovery dialog itself there should
be a toggle option to 'Don't automatically show this dialog after a crash
again.'. There should also be a menu link to open the recovery dialog at
whatever time the user wants.

I think the above set-up would be the most user-friendly and flexible. I get
annoyed with the crash recovery business for pretty much every program which
utilises it, but I don't want to just get rid of it completely. It'd be far,
far better for me to just be able to click 'Try to recover crashed projects'
or something as and when I choose, rather than having the recovery tool
hijack the software on startup and force me to make a decision there and
then. If crashed projects aren't automatically cleaned up (ie: stored in a
temp folder), then there should be no real reason why I can't choose when to
recover projects for myself.


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> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:12:33 -0500
> Subject: [jokosher-devel] Crash recovery dialog
> Hopefully everyone has tried out, or at least had a chance to see the
> crash recovery feature we put into 0.10. The feature automatically saves
> any open Jokosher projects every few minutes.
> On startup, Jokosher checks to see if there are any projects saved in
> ~/.jokosher/backups, and displays a dialog if there are:
> http://blog.mikeasoft.com/2008/08/10/improved-crash-protection-for-jokosher/
> Here are my thoughts about this dialog:
> a) There is too much text at the top.
> b) It is designed to be able to show multiple projects that can be
> recovered. This is only the case if you crash Jokosher multiple times in
> and decline to recover each time, or you have multiple instances of
> Jokosher open and your system crashes. I am not sure these are the most
> common cases.
> My question is, is it best to prompt the user to restore any of the
> crashed projects? The other option is to not have a dialog at all but
> prompt for restore when the user opens that particular project. This is
> the way Word and OpenOffice work. They don't have a single place to keep
> track of all the recoverable files, but when you open a file it checks
> for filename~ or filename.bak and checks if it can be recovered.
> The reason I am putting this on the mailing list is because I require
> discussion on this issue. *Please respond* and at least tell me if have
> or will ever run multiple Jokosher instances at once, even if you don't
> have any other opinions. I would like to know if restoring multiple
> projects is a common use case, and would like to hear any other insights
> people have.
> I hope this mail doesn't have the opposite-bikeshed problem many of the
> previous ones did where no one wants to give any opinions.
> Thanks for everyone's help on this.
> Laszlo
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