Section 9.4.2 of the EJB 1.1 spec says: "The Container must ensure that the values of the container-managed fields are set to the Java language defaults (e.g. 0 for integer, null for pointers) prior to invoking an ejbCreate(...) method on an instance". Is Jonas 2.1.1 actually doing this? My experience with it, and also from looking at the source, indicates it isn't.... Joe ===================================================================== Joe Gittings, Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew Hanover House, Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 3AB [EMAIL PROTECTED] +44 20 8332 5712 fax: +44 20 8332 5736 ---- To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "unsubscribe jonas-users". For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help".