In a message dated 20/09/01 02:15:05 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << These articles are not only extremely informative, they are also supportive of the american response, unlike a tiny minority of 'asses' working for the guardian or bbc... >> Hmmm, I don't know what to make of that, except that some of us think the Guardian is a pretty good paper. If you don't like it, fair enough; I would add, though (at the risk of seeming to indulge in a tit-for-tat), that a LOT of people feel that the Times and Sunday Times started to decline steeply when Murdoch took them over, and that they are now little more than tabloids with longer words, and mouthpieces for his world view, not to mention his endless product placement for his satellite interests. Certainly, only a very naive person would consider them to be impartial; the Times of old was as close to impartial as newspapers get. Nowadays, the Independent is the closest to neutral as you'll find in England. Azeem
