Mike wrote: > I was especially proud of the role of the (mostly) young >people at the time of the Vietnam war. It just seems >(maybe only 'seems') such a contrast to a lot of present day US attitudes to operations 'Desert Storm' and 'Infinite > Justice' (sic) for instance. I can't see where you think that. Vietnam was protested largely in part because it was our war. The current war IS ours - we have been attacked with thousands murdered on our own ground. > Agreed. How did they [Latinos] get into the cycle of >poverty? It's roots got directly back to the Spanish Conquistadores who did much to the native countries what some of our American ancestors did. The huge difference is that we evolved and changed and made reparations to a large extent. The Spanish elite never did, at least not on a scale to where the people have any chance to share in the prosperity and natural resources of their country. I'm not thinking so much of South America here, but rather Central America and Mexico. Mexico's corrupt elite are as entrenched as they ever were. They give lip service to their people by presurring the U.S. to take in more and more of their people. I recall a terrible storm which completely flooded out the border town of Tijuana a few years back and killed many people. Tijuana is one of the largest and economically richest cities in Mexico (from our U.S. dollars) and they did not even have a sewage system. Raw sewage flowed everywhere from the storm and flowed into the ocean (as it has there for years). It was Americans who came to their help through government and private dollars. > Fantastic, admirable. So what happened to California >Proposition 227 and other 'anti-immigrant' legislation >and/or proposals? (A genuine question, not an > ironic or rhetorical one). I have no idea, truthfully. > Do you think this will happen? (A genuine question, not >an ironic or rhetorical one). Before our current crisis, Bush was stubbornly and resolutely standing on this one. Check out this article from a few days before the terrorist hit us http://www.ocregister.com/news/bush00905cci3.shtml I assume this will be backburnered now since we are in a state of emergency, and sentiment is not exactly riding high on anyone who is in our country under undocumented status. Security concerns, you know. Kakki
