Thanks for this.  I was raised a Catholic, a religion which for many years
has been known for its staunch pacifism.  Nonetheless, I was taught in that
church that self-defense is always allowable and that we must always stand
against evil.  Just my two cents.  Kakki


>  "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and
degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing worth a
war, is worse.... A war to protect other human beings against tyrannical
injustice; a war to give victory to their own ideas of right and good, and
which is their own war, carried on for an honest purpose by their own free
choice is often the means of their regeneration."
>
> --John Stuart Mill

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