Vince Lavieri wrote:
>
> If I failed to do that, then I have sinned, but the accusation that I am
> anti anybody goes to the core of who I am. I don't give a damn about
> the fact the people may disagree with me but to attack me at my core
> essence as a person: when I have been anti anybody?
>
> That no one jumped up and said, "hey, Vince is not anti-anyone" between
> the time that the post was made and the time that I read it, that says
> something to me about where I fit into this community.
Gosh, Vince, you not only beat up yourself, and me, but now the members
of this community too?!! That's too much.
I did not make a blanket condemnation of your person. I was responding
to the way one post that you had written came across, and still comes
across. I haven't changed my mind about that.
I regret now, with perfect hindsight, that I did not simply write out
the words of the just war theory and what I thought of it. In your
message you seemed to be pounding into the ground what Kakki had said
about the Catholic Church being pacifist. Your attempt at gentleness did
not work. I responded to the emotion behind what you wrote.
For you to take my message as your entire essence being attacked is an
overreaction, perhaps caused by the emotional stress of these times. I
hope later you will not see my message as something destructive. It was
not meant to be, and I'm very sorry it has added to your distress.
Debra Shea
you have taken my words as complete
Either I am not
> worth speaking up for because you as a group perceive me as being
> anti-people, or because no one values me enough to say a word on my
> behalf, or because you think that I am so tough that I can laugh this
> stuff off. As for the last. I hurt, too, I bleed as easily as any other
> wounded person. And as for the others, that confirms this is not a
> community for me.
>
> And that some people think I am upset because of a opinion difference
> rather than the personal attack, well, what can I say. Have it how you
> see it; I know how it hit me like a rock in my stomach.
>
> As far as my not being a part of the JMDL - I will deeply miss a lot of
> it. What Les has accomplished is, and it is Les who I am feeling badly
> about, because he did not create the JMDL for people to hurt one
> another, but what Les has accomplished is a rare gift in the world. I
> have communicated privately to Les and tried to say what I need to say
> to that good man.
>
> You all won't miss me. A month from now I'll be a faded memory, in six
> months a trivia question/answer if anyone remembers me at all. Life
> will go on for us all, and this JMDL will do just fine without me.
> Obviously.
>
> Next time someone throws the word "anti" at someone in here, the next
> time someone goes in rhetorical overkill and plunges a dagger into the
> heart of another, will anyone care? I hope the next person so assaulted
> fares better than me, and finds someone to intercede on their behalf.
>
> for the last time:
>
> (the Rev) Vince
