Oh get out!  How lucky can two JMDLers get?!
What a thrill for you both ... I'm so happy for you.  Next time keep buying 
her drinks until we get there ;-)

Best to you both -
Heather


At 01:34 AM 9/30/01 -0700, Kakki wrote:
>Joni was so great today!  She and a friend, both with little dogs came and
>took a seat on the outside patio (only place to smoke) at the Daily Grill.
>I was surprised to see her with a dog!  Coco, the little, very lively
>terrier was barking, yapping and yapping non-stop.  Joni felt a little
>self-conscious and was trying to calm her down and explaining to everyone
>that Coco liked to bark at the birds.  She would say a few times to all of
>us sitting out there how Jack Russell terriers were bred to be
>self-starters, independent and that they do not take well to being chained
>up (Hehehe).  At one point, she took the leash off and Coco was very happy
>wandering around all our tables and NOT barking. Coco reminded me so much of
>my dog years ago - part terrier and very much the same personality.  So I
>was telling Stephen about Daisy and Joni asked and we laughed about how they
>rebel at being on the leash to the point of choking themselves and how they
>can jump 5 feet straight up in the air and are so hyper, yet always sweet!
>Meanwhile, Paula Abdul was sitting with a friend behind us and had gone up
>and introduced herself to Joni and had a nice meeting with her.  Later Paula
>brought out pictures of her own dog to show Joni!  So anyway, I was very
>self-conscious and did not want to intrude on Joni.  A large group of young
>women came in and sat down at the patio.  Almost immediately, one of them
>started being VERY rude to Joni about Coco wandering about.  Absolutely
>rude.  She went on about it being unsanitary about a dog near diners, etc.,
>blah, blah. Welllllll...., of course, Stephen and I gave Joni the eye that
>we would be her "back up" and made a few light comments trying to laugh the
>girl off.  Joni was nice but also assertive with her and said "I'm sorry, I
>just learned I can't bring the dog here, but she will bark if I leash her so
>you have your choice - she wanders quietly or you can hear her bark
>non-stop - it's your call!"  The young punk, er, girl, told Joni quite
>snottily to put the leash on.  So the leash went on and then I said "Coco -
>sing for us!!"  Tee hee.  Oh and yes, the cacophony started once again ;-)
>
>Somehow, a long, natural conversation began with Joni from there.  She was
>so open and honest right from the heart on many matters, including personal,
>which I feel not right about sharing here but the point is that when you
>have someone like Joni being so from the heart with basically strangers it
>says something very profound about one's integrity - she is who she is in
>all instances.  I want to be so proper here about what she said, rather than
>being just a blabbermouth.  The first thing she brought up was what she kept
>calling the "war."  I asked her if she had been painting lately and she
>immediately said "three since September 11th."  She went on to explain to us
>in great detail the various images she perceived from the WTC coverage - she
>actually was taking photos of the TV footage with a "paper camera" trying to
>capture everything.  She saw many images and metaphors literally in the
>smoke and said how difficult it was to capture them so fast.  She had much
>to say about it all.  I still think we should wait to hear her words on
>this - she sees it, of course, on a larger, global scale, prophetess that
>she is.  On related subjects that we spoke about, including the dismal state
>of music these days, I opined that there hasn't been much good music since
>the 60s.  She disagreed with me and said that the real best music was back
>in the 30s and 40 like Louis Armstrong.  I said that I had also been
>thinking about that lately - how those times were much worse for people than
>today and yet they produced that music.  She said - to the effect - that
>yes, they could be so optimistic in the face of what was happening and
>produce such life-affirming music and that was real integrity, real
>strength.  Yes, yes.
>
>We talked about so much - you know how she is from reading her interviews
>and this was just one of the most incredible you have ever heard!  We talked
>about painting in general and her painting specifically.  I mentioned that
>Stephen and I were both painters and she wanted to know about Stephen's
>paintings.  I'll let him write more about that when he recovers ;-)  We
>talked about her next project coming up and she told us a lot that we
>already knew from here - she is using the same crew - Vince Mendoza, and, as
>she said her "ex-husband" ;-)  We talked about Beethoven, Debussy and
>Mozart. (Our heads were spinning ;-)  She mentioned the reworking of her
>songs but it is hard for me to articulate it now and relate it properly.  Ya
>had ta be there ;-D
>
>So - somehow I brought up about her not writing lately and she said she had
>not been able to write for awhile.  Then she said, "no one is interested
>anymore in what I have to say."  God.  We immediately jumped in and said "OH
>YES, WE ARE."  And Stephen added emphatically "your listeners ARE."  Then
>she said that this event, the "war" HAS evoked her writing again.  Oh yes!
>
>She talked about Robert Hilburn (our longtime music guru in L.A.) and how
>he, for awhile, did not quite "get" her.  I said that my impression was
>always that Hilburn (who is so damn picky) adored her.  Naw, she said, he
>always told her that he didn't like her foray into jazz and she would tell
>him that the folk music was not as creative as what she did with the jazz.
>I told her that hey, there were albums I didn't "get" at first, either, but
>I always thought that was my problem, not hers, and I just figured that she
>was 20 years ahead of her time.  She laughed and said she didn't "get" some
>of the stuff she did, either ;-)  I said that the critics who didn't get her
>years ago certainly have reconsidered and get her now.  She said, "well, I
>never was writing to write "hit music."
>
>So I may think of more that is right to say here later, but for now, the
>brilliant news is that she is very inspired to write again and we do need to
>hear from her.
>
>Kakki, heart still beating like a hummingbird

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