Dear Mary:

Thank you for your comprehensive viewpoint.  

Peace.......Sharon

"Pitassi, Mary" wrote:
> 
> A few responses to Kakki's response to me.
> 
> First, I wrote, and Kakki responded:
> 
> "> My favorite is probably, "Stay away from the ridiculous claims that
> we
> > are hated because we respect individual liberties. In the Muslim
> world,
> > over and over again, we consistently HAVE NOT respected individual
> liberties
> > but rather supported tin-pot dictators."
> 
> I think that is really debatable.  How can we explain the fact that tens
> of
> millions of people from South America, Central America, Iran, Palestine,
> Iraq, Pakistan, Cuba, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, China, Korea and Russia
> have
> fled to our country.  If we were the "great imperialist Satan" who has
> help
> ruin their countries and interfered with their "democratic" elections,
> why
> the hell do so many of them want to come here?  The facts belie a lot of
> the
> criticism against the U.S."
> 
> What facts bely the criticism?  I'll get to that later.
> 
> But as to notion that the fact that millions of people around the world
> have immigrated to the United States somehow weakens the assertion that
> the U.S. has engaged in systematic interference and suppression of civil
> liberties in other countries:  I can't agree.  That's comparing apples
> and oranges.  In fact, my original point was, although the U.S. is, for
> most U.S. citizens and residents, a beacon of rights and opportunities,
> those who have been on the receiving end of U.S. foreign policy have not
> always been so lucky.  To me, it's no surprise that some have seen the
> lay of the land, and decided that they'd much rather be on the inside of
> the fence than the outside.
> 
> OK, that last was a little glib.  Let me be more serious.  There will
> always be individuals of courage and ambition who will see life in the
> U.S. as the best way to further their own personal dreams and to care
> for their families.  My grandfather, Michael Pitassi, was a shining
> example of that.  A bright, ambitious boy in the tiny village of Ateleta
> in the Abruzzi region of south central Italy, he realized early on that
> a life spent in his small town held no promise for him.  So, at the age
> of 16, speaking no English and armed with only a third-grade education
> but having already mastered two trades, he shipped off to the United
> States, worked as a butcher to pay the relative who had put up the money
> for his passage, switched to what would become a lifetime of work as a
> stonemason, and rose to become a partner in his own successful business,
> which developed a national reputation within its own niche.  He lived to
> see two of his children and the first of his six grandchildren graduate
> from college, and to hear that first grandchild--me--tentatively begin
> to speak of becoming a lawyer.  Truly, he crafted a life for himself
> that would have been utterly impossible in the village in which he was
> born.
> 
> But does the fact that Michael Pitassi had the courage and persistence
> to take full advantage of an opportunity he saw negate the fact that the
> U.S. supported the government of Fulgencio Batista in Cuba before
> Castro's revolution in 1959?  That U.S. Marines occupied Nicaragua more
> or less continuously from 1912-1933, when they were replaced by a
> National Guard commanded by Anastasio Somoza, with whom the U.S. enjoyed
> quite cordial relations?  That the U.S. later overtly and covertly
> supported the Contras in that country?  That it restored the Shah of
> Iran to the Peacock Throne, directly setting in motion the events, and
> the reaction to those events, that, in the minds of many, created the
> environment in which Islamic fundamentalism would eventually thrive?
> 
> And does it negate the increasing evidence that U.S. involvement in the
> overthrow of the democratically-elected Socialist government of Salvador
> Allende in the 70's extended to the highest ranks of government,
> including Henry Kissinger himself?  In fact, an edition of "60 Minutes"
> detailing those charges had aired here two days before the attacks on
> the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.  When I first received notice
> on my computer that something vague had occurred involving a crash and a
> hijacked plane on the morning of Tuesday, September 11, my first thought
> was that some terribly confused or deranged relative of a victim of the
> Chilean coup was making a tragic statement.  The reason?  As one who has
> lived and studied in Chile, the date of September 11 was already
> indelibly etched on my mind.  Allende's government was violently
> overthrown on September 11, 1973.
> 
> Some immigrants made their decision to adopt the U.S. as their new and
> permanent home before any of these events happened.  Some didn't know
> about them.  Some would have come anyway, for purely personal reasons.
> And yes, some, like the particular U.S. Muslims interviewed for a recent
> New York Times article (don't recall the date; could probably find it if
> I rummaged around at home), are frank in saying that, even though they
> disapprove of many, many components of the "American way of life," they
> came here and remain here because they are treated better here than they
> would be anywhere else.  Which, again, doesn't contradict my original
> point.
> 
> The U.S. actions described above are FACT.  They MUST be considered when
> evaluating how we have come to the place in which we find ourselves now.
> 
> And second, Kakki wrote:
> 
> "The situation now,
> our current reality, is that we are suddenly at war and in a state of
> emergency.  There really are more pressing concerns for Americans right
> now
> than to be ruminating every day about all the mistakes we made to get us
> to
> this point.  I would rather Nightline be telling me about the latest
> Anthrax
> or other kinds of attacks, and how the war is affecting our world than
> being
> lectured about all the actions that have brought us to this point right
> now."
> 
> But in my view, it is precisely *because* we are in a state of emergency
> that it is so crucial that we understand what our role in the world has
> been, and how what we actually did has influenced what some terrorist
> extremists may believe about us, with varying degrees of accuracy.
> Would you want a doctor treating you for Anthrax (and I hope to GOD that
> never happens to any of us!!) who understood only imperfectly how
> Anthrax works?  And without that understanding, how could a vaccine be
> developed?
> 
> Understanding the whole context, which *definitely* involves the actions
> of other countries but also includes those of our own that we may find
> less than savory, need not take the form of "ruminating" without action,
> or without devising positive changes.  Indeed, it will be most effective
> if it occurs in conjunction with these other two.  But, in my opinion,
> it must occur.
> 
> T.S. Eliot wrote, in quite another context, "in my end is my beginning."
> Here, within the solution *must* be found the fullest possible
> understanding of the problem, or we will have learned nothing, and
> others, within our borders and without, may be tragically victimized
> again.
> 
> In respect and friendship,
> 
> Mary P.
> Wishing my dear grandfather were here to lend his wisdom and vast
> insight to my view of the incredible events of the last month and a
> half, but knowing that he would have been heartbroken at the direct
> attack on the country that he loved.

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