Thanks Brenda,

I personally did not think that Libertarians were totally anti-war or
pacfist but had received Libertarian literature from a couple friends which
was anti-war and pacifist in the very strictest sense of no involvement at
all.  Maybe there is a strict anti-war group within the larger group, just
as in the other mainstream political parties.  I like a lot of Libertarian
thought and

> A non-interventionist foreign policy does not equal anti-war and pacifist
nor
> does it equal Marxism.

No, no, I know that and never meant that.   That's why I think I should
probably stop getting involved in these aspects of the discussion because
the way I am communicating seems to be causing more misunderstanding and
long drawn out re-statements. I also am getting resentful of being misquoted
or taken out of context, too, so. What I've said or thought I said was that
political groups which are against the U.S. seem to be, in some instances,
starting an anti-war movement which is really more about just finding yet
another way to undercut what the U.S. policy is right now, because they are
essentially against the U.S. system.  I also mentioned that there are
sincere, American anti-war movement leaders who are now seeking to separate
themselves from those which have ulterior motives.  I learned about this
directly from the antiwar.com website, as I recall.  They mentioned wanting
not to be associated with certain radical socialist and Marxist (their
words) anti-war groups.

> I think it's perhaps more fair not to try to characterize the entire party
> since it probably covers a spectrum of beliefs radiating from its core
> philosophies, just like the other U.S. political parties.  These complex
issues
> and positions have varying degrees.

I know.  I just don't like them or their agenda and I'm entitled to my view.
I shouldn't have to somehow bow down before them to make others happy or
apologize for being critical of their ideology.

> I also think that it is helpful to separate opinion based on personal
> experience from fact.

I think I've usually always indicated where it was my personal experience
and opinion.  A lot of fact evolves from personal experiences, however.

Kakki

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