--- "Brenda J. Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On 24 Oct 2001, at 23:57, Kakki wrote:
> >
> > I knew nothing of any anti-PC movement until you
> mentioned it. 
> 
> Really?  D'Souza was on just about every major news
> program when "Illiberal 
> Education" was published.

And Allan Bloom's _The Closing of the American Mind_,
advancing a very similar argument, was a HUGE,
high-profile bestseller.

I agree with Kakki that many attempts to deal with
very real racism and sexism on college campuses has
taken the form of clumsy speech codes that are not
only repressive, but forbear the possibility of honest
discussion about race, etc., which is to my mind a
CRUCIAL step in dealing with undemocratic attitudes. 
And yes, many espousing such speech codes look to '60s
campus activism for inspiration, and some believe in
socialist or even Marxist ideals.

What I disagree about is the extent and directness of
this influence.  The initial claim was that the U.S.
academic system has "long been either dominated or
heavily influenced by" Marxist ideologies.  As I read
the thread--and correct me if I'm wrong--Kakki later
amended this to say that Marxist ideology was subtly
influential in today's American educational system.

Based on my very recent experience of a rarefied part
of the American educational system, my take is that
Marxist thought is very much alive and well on
campuses, but it certainly is not "dominant."  Subtle
influence seems closer to the truth, but lots of
ideologies exert their subtle influence in our
academic halls, from fundamentalist Christianity to
secular humanism to multiculturalism to, as we now
know, libertarianism.  And well they should.  The
academy *should* be a marketplace of ideas.  We should
fight the speech codes but not give up trying to solve
the persistent institutionalized prejudice these codes
clumsily attempt to address.  On that I suspect Kakki
and I would agree.  :-)

--Michael

NP:  Yahzarah, _Hear Me_




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