> Anyone who doesn't care about my opinion of the only-joni digest should
skip
> this.

I had decided to let this lay where it was but now I don't think I will.  I
also was going to skip this post since those are the instructions but I
could not do that either since I have to read every single thing written
here.  I am unable to skip over the posts I don't want to read and am forced
to read them all.  It really irritates and disappoints me that I have to do
this but ......if it is written here I MUST  read it.  If I don't like it, I
think I will post that and make that poster feel badly.
>
> A problem with email, from someone you don't know, is that it is "spoken"
by
> the listener. Mack seems to have taken it very personally, and apparently
> with his own anger, not mine. I realize Mack  only speaks for himself. His
> comments on my post remind me of Joni's line about Jerry Falwell, etc. --
> preaching love like hate.

I didn't take your post personally.  I wasn't angry at that point either but
to use your word, I was irritated that you thought you had the right to
chastise others for bothering you with their posts that didn't meet up to
your expectations and requirements for what is proper to post here.  Hmmm.
What did your post accomplish?  Made you feel poweful, I suppose.  Made Mark
E. issue an apology for writing something that was heartfelt for him.  Made
Bree apologize for mentioning Ed Ames.  Why didn't you just skip over it
when it didn't suit you? It also amazes me that you are now doing the exact
same thing that you chastise others for, getting personal.  I guess it is
now okay, since it is you doing it.   The Jerry Falwell comment was ugly and
meanspirited, but I can take it.  Hate you?  I don't even know you.  Love
you?  I don't even know you.


Colin might want to refresh his perspective too;
> his words are not mine.


Hmm.  I read Colin's post.  I don't remember anything he wrote that stated
his words were yours.  Maybe you should refresh your own perspective.


> To respond to other comments, I made no reference to
> Christmas. My comments (nor this site) have nothing to do with a religious
> holiday. My point is this: 7 of the 10 posts today are NJC (not counting
> posts responding to my post).  Digest #391 had 10 of 24 posts NJC; # 393
had
> 10 of 16 posts NJC. If I had saved others, I'm sure they would be similar.
> My thanks to Paul and others who understood my comments. I have a busy
life,
> as others do, and preferrred not to scroll through so many  discussions
> about nothing related to JM.

You must have a busy life since you found time to actually scroll through
and record  what posts had the njc tag on them.   Unbelievable.   I think
dissent is your aim.
>
> I had looked forward to the Discussion List, as I too have loved Joni's
> work, since 1968. And I looked forward to sharing info/opinions about her
> and her magnificent art.

That is simply untrue.  If one is touched by the words of Joni Mitchell and
then expounds are what has touched them and discusses their feelings
pertaining to it, I would imagine you would find that objectionable.  Just
exactly what are the parameters that you find acceptable?  Then again, I
don't want to know.


 I have two copies of her LP's, one set worn and
> scratchy; every cassette and every CD. I have every songbook published and
> play her songs (self-taught & poorly) on my guitar. I have notified Simon
of
> two concerts not on his Appearances list that I attended, and for which I
> have photos and ticket stubs.  I have photos of her leaving the hotel
after
> a concert. I sat through a snowstorm at Red Rocks in Denver for hours
> waiting for her to (not) appear. I have the copy of Architectural Digest
> that featured a layout of her home. I buy every piece of music related to
> her. (Is Caroline Lavelle listed as covering her "A Case of You"? Produced
> years ago by William Orbit.)  I have an autographed print of her oil
> painting hanging in my living room. I do my paintings to her music. I'm
not
> special, I'm sure you all have similar stories. That was what was so
> exciting to me in finding this forum. I thought I had a friend in a
> JM fan. She has been a part of my life too.

This is also personal, very personal.  I would suppose that putting Joni's
name in any discussion would meet your standards for what is permissible.
Then again, maybe not.  The difference between me and you is that I don't
care what people post here.  I welcome them to post what they want and to
express themselves as they wish and to explore their passion and thoughts,
as Joni has encouraged us to do.  If,  If I don't want to read it, I pass it
up.  What you have done is make those who want to express themselves more
reticent to do so and yes, that angers me.  Who made you the monitor of what
is acceptable?
>
> I appreciate the posts relating to Joni Mitchell that are on the digest,
and
> I am thrilled to find photos and info from people who are apparently "in
the
> know" about her professionally, and keep us posted on upcoming events. The
> entire website is fabulous and I am grateful to those who make it
possible.
> I appreciated the warm welcome I received when I first logged in. I guess
I
> thought this particular DL/digest  was something else, rather than a chat
> room for so many non-related subjects and very personal email. That's
fine,
> I can unsubscribe. It's pretty sensitive territory, you should have a
> warning label for all newcomers.


That pretty well says it all.  I rest my case.



>
> This is way too long and personal. I thought I knew better than to get
into
> an argument. I feel like William Shatner.


I think you like to argue.  Isn't that why you started this in the first
place?  It most certainly wasn't to uplift anyone or to make anyone feel
better about life or themselves. It wasn't trying to make the site better.
It was about one thing, you trying to make others feel bad.  Well, you
accomplished that.  You would be much better off reading the info you want
on paper.  It can't talk back.  It can't forget to post the njc tag.  It
can't stray into areas that you deem unacceptable.  And you can skip the
articles you don't want to read, or can you?   One thing it has taught me is
to not bother in the future and to skip over posts like yours in the future.

mack

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