This will make more unpopular than I already am but i have got to the
point I don't give a damn about that. I refuse to allow ignorance and
cruelty to unsettle me.

people who resort to cruelty because they cannot explain themselves are
abusive. full stop. and thsort of mail sent to the list about me was
indeed cruel. i have never ever sent a post a post like that. I once
told a person who had haragnued me and kept telling me how bad I was
thnat they were cruel and a liar and arrogant. I had reason to believe
that and have not yet had a reason to change my mind.

What people write is plain to see. If someone says they do not like it
or disagree with or see it as offensive they have the right to say so.
It is NOT the same as saying the person who wrote is bad or an offensive
person. It is saying that the words used were. I am astounded that
adults that do not get that.

Maybe I am supposed to sing your praises and agree with everything
written. That would get very confusing but it would please some wouldn't
it?

It also really pisses me off that when people do resort to name calling
and or cruelty, no one says anything although they might privately.

In recent times, just a few I can recall, I have been blasted for my
opinons. These blasts were not people putting the other side. they were
mean sprited on attacks on me personally.
eg:
I wrote that elderly people do notgain wisdom just by virtue of being
old. a nice cyber friendship was ruined becasue someone took it
personally!!!!

I asked someone why they seemed to be taking what i wrote personally.
They respoinded that they didn't and in the very next post said they
said took it personally. How on earth can one deal with that? What I
coinsidered to be a friendly friendship down the drain. I have never
taken it personally whne people disagree with me. Although it seems that
was a mistake. Judging by the venom that comes my way from those who
disagree with me.

I once responded with a sarcastic comment to 'only a fool would not like
whichever Joni album it was'. I found that offensive. I did know it was
mreant to be quote from seomthing else. So I got blasted for that to.

Another person I thought had been a friend now longer wirtes because I
happen to think circumscion of babies is wrong and don't  fully support
their stand on Israel.

People find the time to ask people to trim posts or rememeber to use the
NJC tag(even tho they commit said crimes themselves) yet ignore blatent
abuse. The abuse Debra received went on and on for ages and most people
ignored it.

Perhaps mistakenly, I have been very open about my past. For one reason
only. To edcuate people. All I achievd is giving people ammunition to
use against me, to have people make cruel remarks about it. I had people
tell me to get therapy, to take my pills etc etc etc HOW DARE THEY? Who
the hell do they think they are?  They ahve absolutely no idea at all
what they are talking about.Nevr in a million years would I be so cruel
to anyone, no matter how much I didslike them. We can't like everyone
but we can respect people. It is abusive not to. So many people who have
survived such horrors are treated appallingly. No wonder so many of us
keep it a secret.
I have said what i have said, made myself vulnerable for good reasons,
and I had faith that those who read it would take it for what it was,
but no I was stupid and all they did was use it as ammo. disgusting.
Instead they chose to see it as some quest for myself. They ahev cheek
to talk to about forgiveness, to tell me how I should feel. They do NOT
have the right. Especially when their own issues are so cleary on
display. None of you, absolutley none of you, have lived what i lived.
you have no clue! NONE! Not even my John knows so why the hell would I
tell you lot? I have told one person, and that was my therapist. (of
course I know others have had similar lives I am just saying we all
different) I am not as open as you may think I am. I have not given
deatails.Did I tell you what it feels like to held down and raped when
you are five? Did I tell you what it feels like to used in child
porn?Did I tell you what it feels like to see your best friend killed
horrendously when you are 7 as a direct result of racism? Did I tell you
what it feels like to be reguallry knocked unconscious by epople who are
supposed to love and care for you? Did I tell you what it feels like to
grow up unloved and knowing it was all your fault? Did i tell you how it
feels to be so  lonely and just wish your time here would hurry up and
be over? did I tell you what it feels like to feel like nothing?No I
fucking didn't. You will NEVER be told that. Not ever.

For five years this list has been so important me. Someone once told me
to go get a life in one of those mean spirited posts. How is that
possible when people are just as cruel in the real world? I can tell
you, that most people, the vast majority, gay or str8, do not want to
know someone with a mental illness. I make friends with people, I am
easy going and like people, and as soon as it is realised I have a
problem, they disappear. i don't have to say'hi I am colin, i have Bi
polar disorder'. It is not a disease you can hide. So the pc has been  a
godsend for me. because for those of you who will relish this, I spend
all my time on my own, except when John is here at weekends. I used to
make the effort, go to church( mistake), join clubs, but the attitude
out there for anyone different is not good. And yes, I have spent years
thinking ti must be my fault, just like you are thinking.

And I'll tell you what, the bahviour and nastiness I have seen here
astounds me and people have the cheek to disrespect me, to diminish me,
to dismiss me, because I am 'not all there' should take a look at
themselves!

I recently asked a freinds opionion becasue I felt I was becoming too
cynical. Right now, I just don't feel any different. My fatith in people
is shatterd. I was told that you learn trust by trusting. Bollocks to
that.

those who don't want to see me as a real person, with real feelings,
will see this as nothing more than self pity. Or they will just blame
me. It makes it all much easier for them.

I have NEVER intentionally hurt anyone.(of course the person I told how
I felt to about them, will call me a liar but I can't help that). The
sort of mails I talking about are sent by people with that sole
intention-to hurt.I don't like to cause people pain. I have slipped up
and apologised. I cannot apologise for somehting I have not done.
Although i did once, I wrote soemtbning like 'some cow I don't even know
sent me a virus'. This was before I knew about virii and how they
spread. I immediately apologised but contiued to be slagged off for it
anyway.

No doubt I have opened myself up for more abuse. And thsoe of you who
wish I'd fuck off might well get your wish. i haven't decided yet. if I
do fuck off it will becasue I decieded to.

oh and just a little thing-I can spell I just can't type well.

Oh and Laurent(if you got this far!)-I do not dislike you at all. I
don't know you.. I don't agree with you. That is allowed isn't it?

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