JMDL Digest wrote: JMDL Digest Saturday, June 22 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 263
The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Today in History: June 21 [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Raya O. Coal concert - sjc ["Marian Russell " ] NJC Germany 1, USA 0 [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #179 [Kate ] njc Sobs all round... (contains rude joke) [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Joni as Prozac [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] RE: Joni as Prozac ["Victor Johnson" ] Info for Karin re Asheville (njc) ["Victor Johnson" Webcasting rates announced...RIP Internet Radio? (NJC) ["Brenda" Misquoting a genius, 100% JC ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Webcasting rates announced...RIP Internet Radio? (NJC) [SCJoniGuy@aol] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #179 [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Come In From The Cold video [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Starart on ebay heads-up [Penny ] Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #262 - pretty or not? [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Re: pretty or not? (or ... HOT???) [Lori in MD ] Re:joni not particularly attractive physically? [Lori in MD Re: pretty or not? (or ... HOT???) [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrap around joy njc ["mack watson-bush" ] Bush makes me sick(NJC) [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Re: Misquoting a genius, 100% JC [Randy Remote ] Re: Bush makes me sick(NJC) [Vince Lavieri ] Re: Bush makes me sick(NJC) ["gene mock" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 04:06:32 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Today in History: June 21 On June 21 in history: 1967: Today, Joni begins a three-week engagement at the "Le Hibou" coffeehouse in Ottawa. More info: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/670628v.cfm 1968: Joni performs at the Bitter End in New York City. Jerry Jeff Walker and comedian David Steinberg are also on the bill. [Source: New York Times; June 21, 1968] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 04:56:49 -0400 From: "Marian Russell " Subject: Raya O. Coal concert - sjc I had the good fortune to be able to attend Raya O. Coal's CD presentation concert at Unplugged in Vienna's 9th District Wednesday night. Formerly known as Ramona Kasheer, Raya O. Coal (vocals, guitars, accordion) appeared with her new band - Robin Gillard on drums, Juergen Mitterlehner on saxophones, Toni Burger on violin and mandolin, and Reinhard Ziegerhofer on bass - with guest appearances from Thomas Uhegbu on keyboard and Michael Steindl on flute. The concert was wonderful. Raya is very captivating - her beautiful melodies, unusual chord changes, and surprising rhythms are an outward expression of her deep warmth and humor. It is so hard to describe her music because it is such a wild mixture of influences not only from one song to another, but also sometimes even within one song. In one moment it is a folk ballad and in the next it is jazz, in another moment you could imagine you are being serenaded by a gypsy songbird, and the next moment you are in an African chanting session. I feel like somehow she is expanding the boundaries of musical possibility. During the concert, one of her songs sequed into Big Yellow Taxi, and for the encore, she sang Twisted with Reinhard on bass, and instead of singing "instead of one head... I've got two" she sang "instead of two names... I've got two... " which made everyone laugh. I've been listening to her CD, Cut All The Strings, for the last two days. I love all the music on it - like Joni's songs, these are songs that I can play again and again and not tire of them, songs I want to sing along with, songs that run through my head without the help of the CD player. Raya wanted to include a version of Woodstock on her CD, but there were some hangups with getting permission. Hopefully it will appear on a later CD. I highly recommend her music to all JMDL members. She really is a very talented artist who could use your support. I am sure you will be extremely glad if you take my advice and go to the trouble to order her CD. You can find out about how to order it from her at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marian Vienna NP: Stop Listen - Raya O. Coal - Cut All The Strings ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 09:40:43 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: NJC Germany 1, USA 0 Gene, it looks like our hairdo's are safe at this point. ;~) Bob NP: REM, "All the Way to Reno" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 07:43:00 -0600 From: Kate Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #179 I'll add my "yep" to these two comments. Joni in person was not at all what I expected. She did not look like her pictures. She appeared much softer, smaller, and gentler, a lighter presence than I imagined she'd be. It was very much like meeting a different person than the one I'd seen in pictures. And she was very pretty. Kate > And I agree, Joni in person looks MUCH better than in person, which is unusual > because typically it's the other way 'round! She seems to have some kind of > aura that just doesn't get captured much in photos, although Diltz and Norman > Seeaf (sp) come as close as I've seen. > Yes, Joni has a rare natural beauty that exudes in everything she does and > is. Can't help but fall in love with her over and over again. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 09:48:43 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: njc Sobs all round... (contains rude joke) England and USA both out :-( Boy was it close - you Americans gave Germany a hell of a good run for their money, and were unlucky. As for England, they were well beaten in the end. I'm rooting for Senegal now! A nation mourns... Azeem in London Senegal is out too. I wonder what happened but their performance at the 1/4 final against Turkey left much to be desired. Ugu PS Here's the latest World Cup joke, hot off the press: Q: Why do Brazilians have big cocks? A: So they can lob Seaman from 35 yards out! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 09:53:58 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Joni as Prozac A week or so ago, I alluded to a Joni compilation CD I had made for my sister Chris as a thank-you gift. (She had helped me in locating/burning some covers, and had commented on how much she enjoyed the songs). Anyway, I e-mailed her yesterday to make sure she had gotten it, she said she did and that she liked it a lot. She then went on to say that this week a co-worker (at Beacham-Smith-Kline) came up to her all stressed out. Chris gave her the Joni CD and told her to listen to it and it would help. When the co-worker returned it, she was all better! :~) Joni therapy does the job again! Bob NP: REM, "Saturn Return" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 9:58:59 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: RE: Joni as Prozac She's more like the nectar of the gods. Prozac sounds too synthetic and manmade...drink up! Victor She then went on to say that this week a co-worker (at Beacham-Smith-Kline) came up to her all stressed out. Chris gave her the Joni CD and told her to listen to it and it would help. When the co-worker returned it, she was all better! :~) > > Joni therapy does the job again! > Can somebody help me. I Need Joni CDs to cure myself of stress too. Ugu - --- Victor Johnson - --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Roses wait for the springtime, They sleep beneath the ground. They hear March winds a callin' For the sun to come around."vlj Visit http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:5:40 -0700 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Info for Karin re Asheville (njc) I wanted to send some information to Karin in Germany but I lost your email address. Please email me again. thanks, Victor please return to your regular jmdl programming - --- Victor Johnson - --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Roses wait for the springtime, They sleep beneath the ground. They hear March winds a callin' For the sun to come around."vlj Visit http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 09:32:10 -0700 From: "Brenda" Subject: Webcasting rates announced...RIP Internet Radio? (NJC) The new rates were announced this week. Although the amount was cut in half, it is still based on per stream, per listener and not a % of revenue. It's likely that most internet broadcasters will have to shut down and we'll be left with AOL Music or something like it. Reps. Boucher and Inslee have issued a joint press release saying that the rates are unfair. http://www.house.gov/boucher/docs/Inslee_Carp.htm You can find the rates here: http://www.copyright.gov/carp/webcasting_rates_final.html I'll certainly report any updates on grass roots action being taken (for anyone interested in joining the fight). Brenda n.p.: BBC America - -------------------------------------------- "Radio has no future" - Lord Kelvin, 1897 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 09:38:38 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Misquoting a genius, 100% JC In a trade periodical called "R&R" (formerly known 'Radio & Records'), the November 23, 2001 issue had an interview with Bernie Barker. He's the Market Manager at WMSP-AM, WNZZ-AM, WLWI-AM & FM, WHHY-FM, WMXS-FM, & WXFX-FM. Yeah he's an industry 'wheel' but he *don't know jack* about Joni. R&R asked Mr. Barker: "How did the events of September 11 affect you?" He replied: "It reminds me of a song, 'You Don't Know What You've Got (Until You Lose It).' Sept 11 made it clear that, while we are an all-powerful nation, the parts that make up the whole are very fragile. But the fragile nature makes us protective, and that's what makes us strong. Like a splash of cold water in the face, Sept 11 was a wakeup call. Also, it reminded me of what an important role our medium plays. Radio rallied to the occasion on September 11, and it continues to do so today." In fairness to Bernie, it looks like the R&R writer and / or editor interpreted Bernie's mangled quote as if it was a title but we all know it's not a title. It's possible that Bernie gave them the first bit and the editor incorrectly added the sub-title, making him look silly. I want to believe he knows better cause he picked Pink Floyd's "The Wall" as his favorite album of all time. Anyone who comprehends Roger Waters is okay in my book. Lama ps, Those buildings collapsing on thousands of New Yorkers where a lot like cold water on your face, right guys? ppss. favorite mis-quote of all time: >>>> This project has gone wrong from the beginning. It's like 'the blind leading the blind'.>>>> How many times have we heard it that way? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 12:46:02 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Webcasting rates announced...RIP Internet Radio? (NJC) Thanks for the links & the update, Brenda...I read an article this morning about it. Sounds like the "Borderline" between what the industry suits want & what the internet sites can pay is an impasse. Short-sighted businessmen...it was nice while it lasted. Bob NP: REM, "Stumble" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 13:13:49 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #179 In a message dated 6/21/02 12:01:28 AM, From: "Cynthia Vickery" writes: << everything but the music and on the NRH video, with the fireworks lighting up her beautiful features. oh - and the when her face is just lit up with joy in the video for the much-maligned "dancing clown," when she's dancing with her cat in the kitchen. >> Which? What?? Where??? How do I see this? Is it for sale?? When I read about all the jmdl'ers who saw her in concert in LA and saw her paintings and got kisses...geeze it makes a person feel isolated...such a thing is beyond my comprehension...Wally's story made me cry with joy for him...but inside of me I am a rock star extroidanre....aren't you? Oh sour grapes because i..... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 13:23:05 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Come In From The Cold video > Which? What?? Where??? How do I see this? Is it for sale?? Joni's 'catdancing' video for Dancing Clown is one of the videos on the "Come In From the Cold" compilation release. Out of print, you can find copies on E-Bay, or maybe one of us JMDL-types can make you a copy for blanks/postage or such. Bob NP: REM, "Don't Go Back to Rockville", 9/25/84 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 12:03:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Penny Subject: Starart on ebay heads-up Hey all you lovers of Joni's paintings - just checked ebay for the first time in eons, and saw a printing of Starart for 10 bucks without any bids on it yet. Thought that those of you who haven't gotten your hands on one, might want to check it out! Item # 887586000 Penny NP Don't Get Around Much Anymore - Oscar Peterson Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:25:38 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2002 #262 - pretty or not? > Subject: Re:joni not particularly attractive physically? Joni has said, I believe, that she has the sort of face that can look glamorous or homely in photos, depending on whatever. Up close, in person (the one time I encountered her) she was quite lovely. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 12:40:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Lori in MD Subject: Re: pretty or not? (or ... HOT???) Bryan wrote: > Joni has said, I believe, that she has the sort of face that can look > glamorous or homely in photos, depending on whatever. Imo, this is about the "hottest" photo ever taken of Joni: http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0609802186.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg Your opinions? Lori ~ Sign-up for Video Highlights of 2002 FIFA World Cup ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 12:51:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Lori in MD Subject: Re:joni not particularly attractive physically? > she had kissed me , joni mitchell had kissed me !!! it was an evening > that i will never forget, i guess it goes a little ways to explaining why > i am so obsessed with the woman... WARREN!!! What a fabulous story!! And as other have written already, you've told it well. How special and delightful! > p.s. well bob, i finally told the story. i was actually trying to compose > something, per les' request, that could be posted on the site but i just > couldn't seem to find the time to do it. mack's comment made me think > of it and i got carried away... "Joni kissed me!" Perhaps this should be a new web page? : ) Lori, still not kissed by JM but perhaps that's best because I would then be sporting a "JM kisslips" tattoo ... ~ Sign-up for Video Highlights of 2002 FIFA World Cup ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 16:03:12 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: pretty or not? (or ... HOT???) > Imo, this is about the "hottest" photo ever taken of Joni: IMO too! That's a photo from the Herb Ritts/Vanity Fair sessions that Kakki mentioned. Hot indeed! Bob NP: The Replacements, "Roundabout", 2/2/84 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 20:35:31 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: wrap around joy njc Wrap around joy from ebay today. wow. Had forgotten just how marvelous Carole could be. mack watson-bush ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 22:39:31 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Bush makes me sick(NJC) How on earth is that disgusting,rotten,idiotic,dispicable little worm of a "president" so popular?I literally can't stand the sight of him or even hearing him on T.V...I think we're so afraid of more terrorism that we think need him to protect us.We're letting fear triumph over hope and love. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 19:49:35 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Misquoting a genius, 100% JC Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: > In a trade periodical called "R&R" (formerly known > 'Radio & Records'), the November 23, 2001 issue had an > interview with Bernie Barker. He's the Market Manager > at WMSP-AM, WNZZ-AM, WLWI-AM & FM, WHHY-FM, WMXS-FM, & > WXFX-FM. Yeah he's an industry 'wheel' but he *don't > know jack* about Joni. > > R&R asked Mr. Barker: "How did the events of September > 11 affect you?" > > He replied: > "It reminds me of a song, 'You Don't Know What You've > Got (Until You Lose It).' He may have been talking about the John Lennon song "What You Got" from "Walls and Bridges". This line is repeated 3 times during the chorus section. RR ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 22:57:06 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: Bush makes me sick(NJC) That would be a statement that I agree with -- global warming - it exists, but he'll do nothing. terrorism warnings? in his mandated reduced briefings, too little attention was paid when he was more concerned with Enron and not revbealing how Enron was dictating our energy policy. the economy? From surplus to deficit and huge deficits that don't need to be and looking for more tax cuts and lying about the cost of re-organization of government - he can't even be honest about how much that will cost, andwhile we all reciognise the need to do some reorganization, why can't Bush tell the truth? And why did he reject working with Congress when Congreew first proposed this, instead of springing out a plan that had no consultation and input from anyone outside the inner circle? A nuclear treaty that doesn't eliminate any weapons, not a one, but only stores them - what a pr spin job on that. I can't stand to watch him on tv. He disseminates and mis-states so often his staff is always later announcing that desite whatbthe frat boy said, what the real policy of the US is - which does change day to day anyway. I remember Bush ridiculing Clinton for Clintion's shooting a missile at bin laden and missing bin laden by mere minutes when bin laden left his dwelling early - how Bush mocked Clinton for incompetence. Well, Mr We Will Get Him Dead or Alive, in 9 months you never got as close as Clinton. That makes Bush 9 times as incompetent, doesn't it? But then, Bush mocked Clintoin for even going after bin Laden, which Clintin did about the same time that Bush's father and others were meeting with other (non terrorist) bin Ladens on business. oh, Relayer, you shouldn't have got me started... glad you did. (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 20:41:53 -0700 From: "gene mock" Subject: Re: Bush makes me sick(NJC) right on vince!!!!!!!!!!!! i can't help but wonder what gore would have done if he were president. any takers??? take care gene - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vince Lavieri" To: Cc: Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 7:57 PM Subject: Re: Bush makes me sick(NJC) > That would be a statement that I agree with -- > > global warming - it exists, but he'll do nothing. > > terrorism warnings? in his mandated reduced briefings, too little > attention was paid when he was more concerned with Enron and not > revbealing how Enron was dictating our energy policy. === message truncated === Sign-up for Video Highlights of 2002 FIFA World Cup
