Randy asked:

> You mean, if our president has a criminal past, why should we
> make an issue of it?

You are assuming or wishing he has a criminal past as your premise out the
gate.  If indeed he did, he never ever would have gotten as far as he has in
any venture of his life.  You know that his political opponents would have
found it out and screamed it from the rooftops years ago.  I guess this ties
in because he political opponents were the ones who were ranting about the
deal with Harken way back when.  There was a full and extensive
investigation and he was found to have committed no wrongdoing, much less
anything criminal.  I actually looked around quite a bot to find a current
news article which could explain the history of this Harken issue
objectively and without political bias and found one at National Review
online (yes it is conservative but also known for being objective and
tediously factual to the point of boredom).  If you are interested here is
the link http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york071002.asp  It may be a
difficult read because it is not written in quick, hyperbolic sound bite
style but rather is almost like a legal brief, which I admit I even had a
hard time getting through.  However, If you are really interested in the
facts you might pore through it.  The conncluding statement of the article
is arguably biased "Even so, it's probably safe to expect the president's
opponents to keep hammering away on the Harken issue. Just because it's
never worked before doesn't mean they'll stop trying."  Or one might say it
is just commonly observable fact.

> I don't see Enron as some abberation, I see it as the
> tip of the iceberg. They just got caught, that's all. They were
> conducting business as usual.

Of course it is not some aberration - such situations have been going on in
one form or another since the beginning of time.  Greed is timeless.  What
is preposterous is to somehow try to link it to Bush.  The shady dealings
that set up the Enron debacle took place during the prior administration as
everyone knows. Where was the prior administrations Justice Dept. and SEC
during that time?  It was laughable that the political opponents who rushed
to try to slime Bush with Enron were suddenly silent after it was revealed
through public records that they themselves owned thousands of dollars in
Enron stock and had received hundreds of thousands of dollars in political
contributions from Enron. The gall and venality of those who try to foist
this junk on public opinion is so transparent to most people.  These are the
same opponents who gave Clinton a pass on everything, even while he was
brazenly violating several laws right in front of our faces. Setting aside
the perjury offense let's take one example of many - Clinton and Gore openly
getting millions of dollars in campaign money from Chinese government
representatives (in exchange for what?). Maybe many don't know this but that
is a federal offense.  I once worked on a case defending a Korean national
who the feds were ready to send to prison because he gave a couple hundred
dollars to a Korean-American candidate running in a local election in
California..

>Enron executives won't go to jail. They'll get to keep their money.

It's way too early to assume that.  You should rather be hoping that they do
pay and perhaps writing those in government expressing your opinion.

> A guy robbing a liquor store will have to pay for his crime (as he/she
should).

A guy robbing a corporation should get 20 times the sentence as the guy
robbing a liquor store.  On that I'm sure we both agree.

I do believe Bush's "get tough" speech and that it is more than just words.
In the past the Justice Dept. and SEC and other various government agencies
DID relentlessly prosecute such cases. The laws have been there for years
but for some reason the responsible government agencies were apparently
asleep at the wheel or in some kind of disconnect in the 1990s.  As were our
intelligence and immigration agencies.

Kakki

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