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JMDL Digest Saturday, August 17 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 324



The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be
found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news,
a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more.

The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains
interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more.
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TOPICS and authors in this Digest:
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Today's Library Links: August 16 [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Today in History: August 16 [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Hissing cover illustration source, jc ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" songs, la de da de 
da ["Nikki Johnson" ]
I lost Jimmy's addres already! [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Places To Come From, Places To Go ["J.David Sapp" Re: Places To Come From, Places To 
Go [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
(njc) E-mail con jobbers ["flopit" ]
"Muslims stick up Washington" mystery solved? [Les Irvin Re: Joni's album commitment 
[Randy Remote ]
Live, Wembley, 1983 ["Arthur Hills" ]
Re: Places To Come From, Places To Go ["J.David Sapp" Re: Live, Wembley, 1983 
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Re: Places To Come From, Places To Go ["Bree Mcdonough" 
Re: New Nash album and tour (JC related) [Michael Paz Re: World map of members 
[Michael Paz ]
Re: UK & Ireland Jonifest - pictures (njc) [Michael Paz WallyFacio NJC) [Michael Paz ]
Re: Live, Wembley, 1983 [Michael Paz ]
Re: Yes Were great!!! [Michael Paz ]
Re: Joni's album commitment ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" 
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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 03:07:23 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Today's Library Links: August 16

On August 16 the following items were published:

1979: "Joni Mitchell Grows Up, Her Music Fills Out" - Cleveland Plain Dealer
(Review - Concert) 
http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/790816cpd.cfm

1998: "Rock 'n Roll Legends in Garden Reprise" - Orange County Times Herald
(Review - Concert) 
http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/980816octh.cfm

2000: "Presidential praise for Lew" - Reuters/Variety
(News Item) 
http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/000816rv.cfm

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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 03:07:23 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Today in History: August 16

1969: Joni performs with Crosby, Stills, and Nash in Chicago.






1974: Tonight Joni performs the fourth of five nights in a row at the Universal 
Amphitheater in Universal City, California. The recordings from these five dates end 
up as the material for the Miles Of Aisles album, released 3 months later.






1979: Joni performs the first of two nights at Alpine Valley in East Troy, Wisconsin. 
Future JMDLer Steve Polifka was there: "It was a Thursday evening with NO RAIN in 
sight... except for the fog from funny cigs that was wafting too and fro o'er the 
audience... ;-) The one thing I did notice and remember distinctly, after all these 
years, was that during the solo on Goodbye Pork Pie Hat, she sat on a plastic chair in 
the back of the stage, and buried her head in her hands - looking road weary or 
performance tired, I know not which. Her performance was great, however. And the other 
thing was Brecker missing his little solo during Hejira - "Listen..."
More info: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/790817mj.cfm
http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/790817ms.cfm
http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/790817wna.cfm



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For the most complete reference to Joni's appearances,
consult the Joni Mitchell Chronology of Appearances:
http://www.jonimitchell.com/appearances.html

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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 06:23:05 -0400
From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" 
Subject: Hissing cover illustration source, jc

Good catch, Tom! That article is a big, big clue to figuring out Joni's
major themes in The Hissing of Summer Lawns.

I think that magazines don't run wierd articles like that anymore because
there's nothing "old", primitive anymore. It's all been gobbled up, as they
discussed 27 years ago in that National Geographic.


>>>>>> I happened to flick
through an old National Geographic. It's Vol. 147, No.2, from February 1975.
There's a fascinating - and deeply strange - pair of articles and
accompanying
pics by one W. Jesco von Puttkamer (crazy name, crazy guy!) concerning two
"stone age" Brazilian Indian tribes, the Kreen-Akarores and their apparent
old
enemies, the Txukahameis. And, on pages 272-273 is....yep...the
original photograph that a certain Ms
Mitchell must have traced for use on the collage/illustration on the HOSL
cover of the Txukahameis Indians (plus, second from right, a stripe-faced
visiting Suya Indian) hauling a giant Anaconda out of the water.
Man....why don't
magazines run features that strange anymore?

Best,
Tom R>>>>>>>>>>>>

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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 10:58:35 -0400
From: "Nikki Johnson" 
Subject: songs, la de da de da

Hola!

I've been trapped under boxes (the type for moving) for weeks now and am
beginning to see the Jonifest light! I was still wavering on my set here and
thought I'd ask for some assistance.

As far as Joni songs go, I was interested in maybe playing Carey again, but
only if I have some Careyettes! My other option is Coyote, also some singing
assistance would be helpful ;-)

I was definitely going to play it's a hard life by Nancy Griffith.

I also wanted to do a sing along I was thinking of either peace Train or
Hide Your Love Away by the Beatles or I am totally open to suggestions.
HELP! lol...

Well back to the boxes for now...can't wait to see everyone!

Love Nikki

"Ever since I was a baby girl the one thing I wanted most in this world was
to keep my love alive..." ~ Heart

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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 09:15:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: I lost Jimmy's addres already!

Hi everyone.

Could someone (Bob M - no, not that Bob M, THAT Bob
M...) send it to me again please.

Thank you!

lots of love
Anne

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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 13:15:09 -0500
From: "J.David Sapp" 
Subject: Places To Come From, Places To Go

Bob - i got the Steve Klink Jazz CD today. what a warm tribute to joni - these
folks are obviously great fans.
its a great package with thoughtful, creative choices for covers. i'll give it
a few spins this w/e and get back to you. seems like a must for joni fans to
me.
peace, david

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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 15:56:44 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Places To Come From, Places To Go

> seems like a must for joni fans to
> me.

David, this is great to hear from you! I believe the same thing, but I hear so many 
covers & tributes my objectivity is probably long gone.

To the list: I've already had a good handful of these spoken for, but I still have 
plenty to go around. This CD is NOT available in the US, so if you want one (for what 
I paid for it - $10.50 + $2 shipping) let me know.

I CAN say that once this batch is gone I don't intend on re-stocking, and if you want 
one you'll have to pay about twice as much once you have it shipped from Germany.

Bob

NP: Thin Lizzy, "Emerald"

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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 22:06:33 -0700
From: "flopit" 
Subject: (njc) E-mail con jobbers

hi walt



>>>walt wrote

Hey, have any of you been receiving e-mail along the following
lines....<<


<<3/5 RIDER HAGGARD
CLOSE, JO, BORG
SOUTH AFRICA.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

{URGENT AND CONFIDENTIAL)

(RE: TRANSFER OF ($ 152,000.000.00 USD ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY TWO MILLION
DOLLARS ) <<<<

ok walt - remind me *never* to get on your wrong side - youve obviously got
connections in higher places :-)

as i logged in to reply i saw the following headlines (please excuse the
html - not sure how it will turn out on the list!!!)

Scorpions bust web racketeers


Related Articles 419 scam mastermind suspect nabbed Scorpions not
interested in 419 Scam Nigerian 419 scam Scorpions nab 15
NigeriansJohannesburg - South African investigators said on Friday they had
arrested a gang of suspected internet racketeers who fooled people into
sending them money by posing as the Reserve Bank. 





ron

np-beth orton-daybreaker

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Dear Members,

I have mentioned this issue before. Nobody should regard those con requests as a 
genuine business. In Nigeria most youths have refused going to school to study and 
instead spend great time on the net sending such trash to unsuspecting net users.

Don't waste your time by responding to such letters.

Ugu


Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 14:59:10 -0600
From: Les Irvin 
Subject: "Muslims stick up Washington" mystery solved?

Joniphiles -
I received an offlist message today from Evelyn Williams, who had a 
contribution for the JMIC Glossary Project 
(http://www.jmdl.com/glossary). She seems to have finally cleared up the 
"muslims stick up Washington" line from "Otis and Marlena".

The DJRD album was released in December of 1977 and in the previous March 
of that year twelve Hanafi Muslims armed with shotguns and machetes stormed 
the District Building in Washington DC. The crisis lasted two days and 
resulted in one dead and dozens injured.

I think Evelyn has solved the mystery of that line... thanks Evelyn!

Here's a short article from the Washington Post that ran 25 years to the 
day later:

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25th Anniversary of Terror; March 9, 2002

It came with the suddenness of September 11: a well-coordinated terrorist 
attack in the heart of the nation's capital, 25 years ago today. Twelve 
gunmen, Hanafi Muslims heavily armed with shotguns and machetes, storming 
into the then District Building on Pennsylvania Avenue NW, the offices of 
B'nai B'rith on Rhode Island Avenue NW and the Islamic Center on 
Massachusetts Avenue NW. Before the terrorist assault was brought to an end 
two days later, Maurice Williams, a 24-year-old reporter for WHUR-FM radio, 
had been shot dead, and dozens more had been injured, including three 
wounded by gunshots. Marion Barry, then a D.C. Council member, was among 
the injured. All told, in a 39-hour terrorist siege in Washington, 149 
innocent people had been taken hostage. We forget the lesson of March 9, 
1977, at our peril. Like the victims of 9-11, the victims of the violent 
March 9 takeover had no relation to the motives behind the assault. The 
Hanafi Muslims, an orthodox Islamic group, killed and took hostages in 1977 
to force the government to turn over five Black Muslims convicted of 
murdering seven members of a Hanafi member's family four years earlier. The 
Hanafi Muslims also killed and maimed to stop the showing in America of the 
movie "Mohammad, Messenger of God" on the grounds that it was sacrilegious. 
Fifteen hostages at the District Building, more than 120 hostages at the 
B'nai B'rith building and a dozen hostages at the Islamic Center had 
absolutely nothing to do with the jailed Black Muslims or the showing of 
"Mohammad, Messenger of God." They were innocent targets of opportunity -- 
a condition not exclusive, but certainly common, to people living and 
working in the nation's capital.

The March 9 terror changed the way we live in this city well before that 
horror-filled September day came along. Because of the Hanafi takeover, 
armed guards and metal detectors were positioned where they had never stood 
before. Closed-circuit television cameras, identification badges and 
concrete barriers are now permanent features of our local scenery. 
Terrorism also permanently changed the lives of its victims. Bob Pierce 
went to work at the District Building 25 years ago as a legal intern for a 
council member. The day ended with him paralyzed for life, victim of a 
shotgun blast to the back as he lay with his face buried in the carpet.

The deep rage, the mindless, violent assault on the innocents -- all that 
this city saw then and last September, and in numerous bloody international 
incidents in between -- are solemn reminders of the scourge that can strike 
a power center such as Washington at any time. "I say throughout this 
country it can get worse and there's nothing nobody can do about it," said 
Hamaas Abdul Khaalis, the Hanafi group's leader in one of his apocalyptic 
warnings and demands in 1977. Evil forces of that day were defeated. But 
the lesson taught 25 years ago, which bears repeating today, is that 
leaders in Washington, as they build for the future, must -- in a world 
where terrorism seeks its day -- do no less than always prepare for the worst.
- -----------------------

Les, packing for JoniFest. 

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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 13:58:45 -0700
From: Randy Remote 
Subject: Re: Joni's album commitment

Brenda wrote:

> It's called the Recording Artists Coalition and Joni was not a
> founding member. It was founded by Don Henley and Sheryl Crow.
> Maybe Joni was a member of Artists Against Piracy that was
> founded and run by Noah Stone (Ron Stone's son). The two
> organizations merged last year. If she was a member of AAP she
> wasn't very visible. And if she's a member now of RAC, she doesn't
> seem to have an interest in publicizing it.
>
> http://www.recordingartistscoalition.com/artists.html

I guess I meant 'charter' member, and I could swear one of the
first Billboard articles on RAC listed Joni as a member, along with
about 10 other artists-though I have not been able to verify this....
and she is not listed as one now.
RR

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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 22:17:59 +0100
From: "Arthur Hills" 
Subject: Live, Wembley, 1983

Just new to the list. Hope I'm not treading on peoples toes.
Found a cassette tape copy of the BBC 'In Concert' in my collection. Have
digitally transferred to CD. Track listing is:

1. Free Man In Paris
2. Song For Sharon
3. God Must Be A Boogie Man
4. Big Yellow Taxi
5. A Case Of You
6. Carey
7. Amelia
8. You're So Square
9. Solid Love
10. Chinese Cafe
11. Woodstock

I think the quality is reasonably good. Any one interested.

Arthur

Yes, please, let me know how I can have a copy sent to me immediately.

Ugu
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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 16:34:15 -0500
From: "J.David Sapp" 
Subject: Re: Places To Come From, Places To Go

well i'm about 3/4 of the way thru. VERY NICE. i don't listen to many covers
but these folks have done a great job. the music is accessible without being
lounge lizard. ACOY and MIDWAY have a George Winston at his best sound. the
most amazing treatment i've heard is NRH - they've given it a gospel feel if
you can imagine and it works. its a treat to hear Rays Dad and Cotton Ave.
i actually think it would serve as a good introduction to joni's music for
those who may be put off by the sound, or voice, or preconceived notions of
the composer.
i am thrilled to have it, its quite lovely.
peace, david

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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 20:18:51 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Live, Wembley, 1983

**Just new to the list. Hope I'm not treading on peoples toes.**

Greetings, Arthur! No, you're not treading on any toes at all, that FM 
broadcast from Wembley '83 was transferred to CD a while back and traded 
around. It's good stuff...I like the '83 tour recordings a lot but I think 
I'm in the minority. That tape of course is just a portion of the concert, 
which ran close to 2 hours. Joni always gives a good show in London.

So tell us more about yourself...how long a fan? How many times you've seen 
her in concert, etc. 

Bob

NP: Elvis Costello, "When I Was Cruel No.2"

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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 17:42:45 -0700
From: "Bree Mcdonough" 

Subject: Re: Places To Come From, Places To Go

>most amazing treatment i've heard is NRH - they've given it a gospel feel 
>if
>you can imagine and it works. its a treat to hear Rays Dad and Cotton Ave.
>i actually think it would serve as a good introduction to joni's music for 
>those who may be put off by the sound, or voice.....

Mr. Covers is putting one on hold for me. Very enthused after reading your 
post. I can't wait to hear NRH....it being one of my favorite Joni tunes. 
Gospel feel....can't imagine?

Bree

NP: Beatles...Abbey Road

>peace, david




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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 23:41:39 -0700
From: Michael Paz 
Subject: Re: New Nash album and tour (JC related)

Wow Kakki I agree. I went to Tower today and picked up along with the new
Yes box set (cause I could not get to Texas to see the houston, Austin,
Dallas shows). Also Robert Plant, James Taylor and a few others. I listened
to it all afternoon and I like it a lot. I have a REAL special place in my
heart for Songs for beginners though and always will. I woke up today to
James Taylor on the Today show and was in that mood all day till I went to
Tower and got a BIG fix. Hoping you have a last minute change of plans and
will be jetting east next week.

Love

Paz

NP-Jack Neilson-Tribute to the Tesh Years Revisited

on 8/5/02 9:36 PM, kakki at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Sitting here having my first listenings to Graham's latest Songs for
> Survivors and it is SO sweet. He says it's the best thing he's ever done
> and oh yes, I do agree, indeed. I can't begin to describe it, you have to
> experience it for yourself. I've followed him since the Hollies, have all
> his solos and combos with CSN or Y and this the one is where it all comes
> together in gorgeous glory. Oh my. All of the songs are unique and
> beautiful. Of extra note is his cover of Richard and Linda Thompson's
> "Pavanne" and "Liar's Nightmare" an 8 minute, 15-verse lyric breathtaker
> that has much to say to everyone about our world and society with words by
> Nash and melody by (I believe) Joni dulcimer mentor Jean Ritchie (Mr. Dulson
> can correct me ;-). 

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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 23:54:53 -0700
From: Michael Paz 
Subject: Re: World map of members

Always on the cutting edge off technology! Great job Les. See ya soon.

paz

on 8/6/02 10:38 PM, Les Irvin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Joniphiles -
> Some time ago, someone mentioned that it would be nice to have a world map
> of where everyone lived. I've found a free piece of software that seems to
> do just that.
> 
> Click on the "World Map of Members" link on the left panel (under "Member
> Sections") at any page on the JMDL site to give it a test drive. It seems
> to be almost ad-free as well... too good to be true? :-)
> 
> Les
> http://www.jmdl.com

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Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 00:11:14 -0700
From: Michael Paz 
Subject: Re: UK & Ireland Jonifest - pictures (njc)

Great fotos Chris thabks for sharing with us common folk. Maybe next time we
can get over there.

Best


Paz

on 8/7/02 6:58 PM, Chris Marshall at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> OK, so I fixed it all up tonight.
> 
> What photos there are so far, are here:-
> 
> http://www.hatstand.org/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=jonifest200

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Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 00:13:23 -0700
From: Michael Paz 
Subject: WallyFacio NJC)

Wally
Great to see you back in the saddle so to speak. Wish I was gonna see you in
NY. I will miss your performance this year. Congrats on your pending
wedding. Are there any pics of the bride and groom to be???


Best

paz

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Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 00:25:41 -0700

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