on 9/22/02 3:00 AM, JMDL Digest at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > JMDL Digest Sunday, September 22 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 385 > > > > The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be > found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, > a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. > > The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains > interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Today's Library Links: September 21 [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > CLARIFY DJRD COMMENT [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Re: "Produced by Joni Mitchell" [Richard Goldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Re; america NJC ["Mike Pritchard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Re: CLARIFY DJRD COMMENT [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Re: Fw: new to list NJC ["Bree Mcdonough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Re: produced by Joni Mitchell [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Re: James Taylor (njc) ["Victor Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Re: James Taylor (njc) ["mack watson-bush" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > new kid/njc ["kasey simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Patricia Barber (SJC) [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > re: revisiting dog eat dog ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Bristols, njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Re: James Taylor (njc) ["Mark or Travis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > new Bonnie Raitt njc ["Mark or Travis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > cd shopping njc ["Mark or Travis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Re: James Taylor (njc) [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Re: James Taylor (njc) ["Bree Mcdonough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > The joy and frustration of supporting obscure singer-songwriters njc (long) > [AzeemAK@aol] > Re: The joy and frustration of supporting obscure singer-songwriters njc > (long) [SCJoniGuy] > Re: Continents - NJC ["gene mock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #274 [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 03:13:45 -0400 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Today's Library Links: September 21 > > On September 21 the following items were published: > > 1966: "Folksongs" - Variety > (Review - Concert) > http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/660921v.cfm > > 1974: "By the time we got through Neasden..." - Sounds > (Review - Concert, with photographs) > http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/740921s.cfm > > 1974: "Wembley Frolics" - Disc Magazine > (Review - Concert) > http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/740921dm.cfm > > 1998: "Joni at The Old Town School of Folk Music" - Chicago Tribune > (Review - Concert) > http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/980921ct.cfm > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 04:06:06 -0400 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: CLARIFY DJRD COMMENT > > A lil while back i posted saying that DJRD was better on vinyl than cd....Well > i think im gonna have to retract that statement...Dont get me wrong it sounds > great on vinyl but for some reason the other day listening to the cd I feel > you get a bettre feel of what Joni wanted us to hear.. I realize this album > gets thrown to the wayside because joni needed to fulfill a contract but i > honestly believe that when its all said and done it will go down as one of her > very best and most innovated works...can you tell i dig it alot?? Another > quick side bar....my friends new boyfriend and I were talkin about Joni the > other day and he referred to "Joni's black music and Joni's white music" have > any of you heard that before...he was sayin how Hejira was her first black > album and how Joni gets more "props" from the african american community than > from white folks...especially for her 80s stuff...ive never heard that before > hope all are havin a great weekend***kev*** > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 01:40:05 -0700 > From: Richard Goldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: "Produced by Joni Mitchell" > > At 3:00 AM -0400 9/21/02, JMDL Digest wrote: >> >> Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 01:14:58 -0400 >> From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: "Produced by Joni Mitchell" >> >> In many interviews, she's said that she "doesn't know what the word means". >> Sometimes she says that she generally doesn't work with "outside" producers >> 'cause she doesn't "want someone ELSE'S brush strokes" on her canvas. >> >> That said, I wouldn't be the first person to notice that she gave some >> people a great amount of creative freedom to move around within her canvas. >> Jaco for example at the very begining of "Sweet Sucker Dance". Just before >> her vocal starts, he put this figure in that practically steps on her. Most >> people wouldn't have left that in there but it really builds tension in a >> jazz way. There's no way (in my opinion anyway) that a rock bassist like >> John Entwistle would have stepped into that particular space. It says >> oceans about Joni's thirst to collaborate in those days, and about the fact >> that she had some really, really wonderful players with her. >> >> Maybe there's chapter to be written called "Joni's sidemen". Hmmmmm. >> Stills, jt, Shorter, Erskine, Blade, Hancock, Jaco, Larry, shit! That's >> just for starters! >> >> Lama > > Brilliant collaboration, it seems to me. Brilliant in the direction of > genius. > > Richard in San Francisco > > n.p. Doug Echols spinning live on WPKN-FM, 89.5 FM in Bridgeport, CT, > http://www.wpkn.org live feed... > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 10:37:53 +0000 > From: "Mike Pritchard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re; america NJC > > Patrick wrote (to wally) > >>> i think you did accidentally make a misstatement about americo (i've > always > seen it spelled amerigo) vespucci. his own voyages may have only been to > south america, but the name "america" does come from his name, because he > was the navigator on columbus' first voyage, which landed in the > Caribbean<< > > to which mike now adds > > and Stevie Wonder wrote > > *Guide of a ship, on the first Columbus trip was a brown man* although > Stevie names him as Pedro Alonzo Nino. If a navigator is a guide, as I > believe is the case, then was Vespucci or Alonzo the guide. And if Alonzo > was brown (sounds Spanish to me) what colour was Vespucci? Eduardo > Galeano mentions Vespucci only twice in his 'Memory of Fire' trilogy. The > quote is as follows: > > The ocean will not be named the Sea of Columbus; nor will the new world > bear his name, but that of his Florentine friend Amerigo Vespucci, > navigator and pilot master. But it was Columbus who found dazzling color > that didn't exist in the European rainbow. Blind, he dies without seeing > it. > > mike in barcelona, from where Columbus started his journey to the 'new > world' > > NP Stevie Wonder. Black Man > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 08:13:22 EDT > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: CLARIFY DJRD COMMENT > > **A lil while back i posted saying that DJRD was better on vinyl than > cd....Well i think im gonna have to retract that statement...** > > Well, you can't lose either way, Kev, that's for sure. I find that DJRD is > not a cd I put on as background. It always seems to demand my full attention. > With the LP, it was sometimes nice to be able to break from each side, merely > to digest it all - especially PP. With the cd, it all keeps coming which is > pretty awesome as well. > > Oh yeah, I dig it a lot too! :~) > > Bob > > NP: Joni, "DED", Rock Master Class > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 08:54:50 -0400 > From: "Bree Mcdonough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Fw: new to list NJC > > Hi Kasey!! > >> Maybe one >> day we'll meet. > > Yeah...Great!! > > How long have you been a fan of JM? > > Oh....since a babe....1976.....been in Joniland ever since. I have her > complete catalog....videos..and I collect Joni stuff as well as the Beatles. > She is my all-time favorite singer/songwriters. As much as I love the > Beatles.....there were four of them and only one Joni. And in her case two > heads *are not* better than one. (a line from Twisted off Court & > Spark.....only she sings... two heads ARE better than one) > > > Do you like Skyline? > > I do....but my favorite is Gold Star Chili. For most of the people on the > list don't know this: Cincinnati is famous for it's chile.....their > three-ways and four-ways and yes...FIVE-WAYS. > FIVE-WAYS:chile,spaghetti,cheese,beans,onions. I have to have a fix at > least once a week. > > Kasey so you don't get yelled at by a lister....always remember to put NJC > in the subject line. Now....if contains joni info...well you don't need to > put it. OR a little joni info...in the subject line you would put SJC. > (some Joni content). Also, when replying to someones post.. be sure to > remove anything in the post that is not pertinent to what you want to > discuss. That way people don't have to reread something they have already > read and is not relevant to what you want to point out or comment > on...discuss etc... > > I thought I would tell you this so you would not get your feelings hurt and > then make you shy about posting. And not to worry we have all forgotten the > NJC....believe me...you will not be the first nor the last of forget. ;-) > > Later... > > Bree > > > > Kasey > ___________________________________________________________ >> Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >> http://www.hotmail.com >> >> >> >> >> Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : >> http://explorer.msn.comGet >> more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 10:00:52 EDT > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: produced by Joni Mitchell > > I agree wholeheartedly agree with you except I don't see James Taylor in that > group. > I wonder what Join thinks of his music. I find him so so boring. > Stephen > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 10:36:56 -0700 > From: "Victor Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: James Taylor (njc) > >> I agree wholeheartedly agree with you except I don't see James Taylor in > that >> group. >> I wonder what Join thinks of his music. I find him so so boring. >> Stephen > > I wasn't terribly interested in JT either until I saw him live in Chapel > Hill in 1991. He totally won me over, in essence, probably making more of > a dramatic impression on me than anyone else I ever saw live. I didn't see > him live again until 2000 at the Fox Theatre in Atlanta. In some ways, I > think his music is similiar to Nick Drake, with stronger vocal ability. > Its so personal and deceptively simple yet if you allow yourself to be > drawn in, you see how warm and endlessly complex it really is. But I think > you really need to see him in person to fully appreciate his music. > > Did anyone else ever have an experience like that, where you weren't really > that interested in someone's music and then you saw them live and it > completely changed your perspective? > > Victor, wondering what the life span of a wasp is as the same one has been > passively crawling around the window for two days now > > > > > > > > > > > - --- Victor Johnson > - --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "Roses wait for the springtime, > They sleep beneath the ground. > They hear March winds a callin' > For the sun to come around."vlj > > Visit http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 10:14:37 -0500 > From: "mack watson-bush" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: James Taylor (njc) > > Victor wrote: > > > deceptively simple yet if you allow yourself to be >> drawn in, you see how warm and endlessly complex it really is. But I > think >> you really need to see him in person to fully appreciate his music. > > Always liked his music. The single released "up on the roof" captivated me > (the version on the album itself is different and not quite as good) and > thus I bought the album. It, like the other three I have, didn't make a > great first impression but over time I wouldn't give any of them up. > > As for the wasp, not long if it cannot get outside. I always trap > non-killer spiders (black widows and recluses) and let them outside as I do > with wasps of any kind except yellow jackets. The latter sting for no > reason and have to go, though it hurts me to do it. Writing of hurting, > just killed three roosters (as I was stung multiple times by the fire ants > which have made it to my house) which now have to be cut up and prepared, or > frozen. But yum, will have a great lunch. > > > mack > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 11:35:19 -0500 > From: "kasey simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: new kid/njc > > Bree, > Thanks for starting me out on the right foot here. I will save your post and > refer > back to it for awhile. My friend is also sending me the Blue CD. Do you have > this one? > What are some of your favorite tracks? Oh, and I forgot to mention, the other > two > things I love about Cincinnati; LaRosa, and Greaters. I'm thinking I may have > to make > a trip there soon:) If I do I'll let you know. > Again Thanks, > Kasey Get more from the Web. FREE > MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 11:57:59 EDT > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Patricia Barber (SJC) > > I just read a review on jazz musician Patricia Barber's new CD "Verse". I've > heard people mention her before, but I'll have to give a listen to this one. > > > "In a loose way" she says "VERSE is a Patricia Barber homage to Joni > Mitchell" -the Joni Mitchell of 1976's "Hejira", Barber's favorite album from > the legendary Canadian folksinger. > > I'm not sure how her music is, but she's got great taste! > > Happy Weekend, > Jimmy > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 12:54:33 -0400 > From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: re: revisiting dog eat dog > > Owen suggested that Joni redo the songs of "Dog Eat Dog" without... > uhmmm.... how do I say this delicately...... without Thomas Dolby's > overbearing, damnable, ham fisted production touches this time. > > :) > > (I couldn't figure out how to say it delicately.) > > Anyway, this sounds like a good idea but asking Our Lady of Duality to > revisit old material was (until recently, ahem!) unlikely. It might be a > neat project for Henning/Christina or our ex-patriot and studio-meister, > Marcel, to tackle. The thing is though, how many among the general public > would want to hear covers of an album that most disliked to begin with? > > Lama > > np: the radio, playing a (new?) Bonnie Raitt track that sounds like it came > right off of Paul Simon's "Graceland", which Lama thinks is also a pretty > good idea. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 13:34:02 -0400 > From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Bristols, njc > > In addition to those nicknames already noted by my esteemed colleagues, I'll > add that my mother used the term "bazooms". :) > > In middle America (ha!) we also called uhmmm..... usually noticeable ones > "cannons" or "bazookas". Don't know why artillery was the association. > Also "rack", or "a nice _set_." I imagine that "boobs" and "boobies" were > already in the mix. Is someone compiling a list? > > Lama > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 11:35:42 -0700 > From: "Mark or Travis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: James Taylor (njc) > >> Did anyone else ever have an experience like that, where you weren't > really >> that interested in someone's music and then you saw them live and it >> completely changed your perspective? > > Rickie Lee Jones last summer. Fell completely in love with her after > disliking her & pretty much ignoring her for years. Now after seeing her > perform live I can't get enough of her. > > Mark E. in Seattle > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 11:47:04 -0700 > From: "Mark or Travis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: new Bonnie Raitt njc > >> np: the radio, playing a (new?) Bonnie Raitt track that sounds like it > came >> right off of Paul Simon's "Graceland", which Lama thinks is also a pretty >> good idea. >> > > Must be 'Hear Me Lord' from the new one. I'm really getting into this cd. > Does anyone know who Jude Johnstone is? The last track 'Wounded Heart' was > written by him and it's a gorgeous, heart-wrenching song. There was some > talk about Bonnie's 'earthy' side. 'Gnawin' On It' is a prime example of > that. 'Silver Lining' is highly recommended. > > Mark E. in Seattle > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 12:00:58 -0700 > From: "Mark or Travis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: cd shopping njc > > Walked to Tower Records on Friday at lunch and was delighted to find they > had their WEA cds on sale. Picked up three Emmylou Harris cds. 'Quarter > Moon in a Ten Cent Town' which I have had on vinyl for years plus 'Elite > Hotel' and 'Cowgirl's Prayer' which I have never owned. All are stellar > efforts from Emmylou. Judging from the lyrics of 'Prayer in Open D', 1993 > must not have been a great year for Emmylou either. She really writes > beautifully. I hope she does more of it. > > The other cd I bought was Judy Collins' 'Who Knows Where the Time Goes'. > More and more I am struck by the incredible emotional depth that Judy > reaches in her interpretations. And this one has her own beautiful song 'My > Father' on it. I am more & more impressed by Judy's writing ability as > well. > > I saw a new Jane Monheit cd at Tower but did not buy it. One of the tracks > listed was 'Since You've Asked'. Also 'Love Has No Pride'. It will be > interesting to see what Jane does with these. I'm glad she continues to > keep her repertoire fairly eclectic. It seems that some of the music of the > 60s and 70s is gradually infiltrating the realm of 'standards'. > > Mark E in Seattle > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 15:54:54 EDT > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: James Taylor (njc) > > **Did anyone else ever have an experience like that, where you weren't really > that interested in someone's music and then you saw them live and it > completely changed your perspective?** > > I was always kind of lukewarm about Richard Thompson (though I thought Mock > Tudor was incredible), but when I saw him live he was incredible! He > definitely made me a believer. And to add to the pleasure, I was introduced > to singer-songwriter Amy Correia, who also was fabulous and who is probably > working on a new one, I hopes! > > Bob > > NP: Andy Summers, "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat" > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 16:54:51 -0400 > From: "Bree Mcdonough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: James Taylor (njc) > >> **Did anyone else ever have an experience like that, where you weren't >> really >> that interested in someone's music and then you saw them live and it >> completely changed your perspective?** > > Joni..1976. I guess you could say it changed my perspective.... (big, big > understatement) > > Bree > > > >> Bob >> >> NP: Andy Summers, "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat" > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 20:34:40 EDT > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: The joy and frustration of supporting obscure singer-songwriters njc > (long) > > Sorry about the tremendously laboured title, folks. That sub-editing job I > went for, they never return my calls... > > I went to a wonderful gig tonight, one that also left me quite gloomy in one > respect. Robin Holcomb was playing London's Purcell Room, a small-ish but > quite prestigious London venue. It was part of a week-long festival called > The Song's The Thing, which, as the name implies, celebrates songwriters > across a wide range of styles. Among the acts featured this year are Lee > Hazelwood, Riuichi Sakamoto, Erland Oye (from Kings of Convenience) and > Kirsty MacColl (a big memorial concert on Monday). > > Robin Holcomb was paired with Jeb Loy Nichols; a less starry brace of > performers you could not dream up without a great deal of effort, and to > expect them to fill a 360-seat venue proved sadly over-optimistic. I don't > suppose they'd register much more than a blip on the radar even in their home > country (America - um, or should that be the USA...) - here, there were > between 50 and 60 people in the place. > > Mind you, those few people were as attentive as any audience I can remember. > You could have heard a feather drop while she was playing, and the applause > was enthusiastic. She came on with a smile and a curtsy, told us that she > was recovering from a nasty cold, and then proceeded to charm the pants off > us for three quarters of an hour or so. > > Her voice is an acquired taste, no question, but to me she sang beautifully > tonight in her quirky way. Her lyrics are outstanding; concise, elliptical, > sometimes mysterious, sometimes poignant. Come to think of it, the same > adjectives apply to her tunes! And her musicianship is pretty special: this > is a woman who had been on the modern jazz scene for years as a composer and > pianist, keeping company with Wayne Horvitz, Bill Frisell, Bobby Previte and > so on. Her songs are very unusually constructed, with shades of jazz, folk, > Minimalism and American neo-classical all discernible. > > In short, Robin Holcomb is a unique artist. This concert will get a short > review in one of the broadsheets if it is VERY lucky, and otherwise will pass > without a murmur. This is what makes me slightly gloomy. Of course, all of > us on this list have our favourite obscure performers, and I'm sure we all > gnash our teeth at the injustice of how they struggle to reach an audience > and scratch a living, while talentless and passionless mannequins clean up at > the bank and the back-room boys and girls plot the next steps in the quest to > excise the soul from music. > > Still, next to all the frustration, I have the joy of re-discovering all the > time that there is great music and great songs being written and that, > despite all the odds, some of it DOES actually get out into the world. And > this list has been responsible for introducing me to some of it, for which > I'm extremely grateful. > > I hope that Joni's imminent offering is part of the solution! Personally, > I'm awaiting it with a certain amount of trepidation (I'm not the only one, > I'll bet), not having enjoyed BSN beyond the first listen, and seriously > doubting that I'll enjoy this one any more. > > Azeem in London > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 20:51:12 EDT > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: The joy and frustration of supporting obscure singer-songwriters > njc (long) > > **Mind you, those few people were as attentive as any audience I can > remember. ** > > That IS the benefit of going to a show like that, Azeem. The folks that are > all are all there to see & hear the artist, and they are respectful and > attentive. You don't have people gabbing or otherwise disrupting the > performance. When I saw Glenn Tillbrook here last year, the crowd was small > but very much into it, and so was Glenn. He jumped off the stage, led us all > around the bar, even invited a couple folks to join him onstage for a song. > > I would much rather spend my money and time on a show of this nature than go > to basketball arenas to deal with people who are just there to see & be seen. > > Thanks for your report - I always enjoy reading your reviews. > > Bob > > NP: Ray Brown, "Both Sides Now" > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 21:03:57 -0700 > From: "gene mock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Continents - NJC > > hello all, and thanks for all the joni fest info, pics, and sounds. anyway > there may well be 5 continents and 7 seas but we are all one earth. what > happens to one continent or one sea will affect us all. wish there was some > way we could spread some joni-dust about. everyone would be for the better. > take care gene > - ----- Original Message ----- > From: "dsk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "hell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 11:50 PM > Subject: Re: Continents - NJC > > >> hell wrote: >>> >>> Kate wrote: >>> >>>> hell thanks for all that info, that is so interesting! >>> >>> I'm glad someone liked it! It is interesting though. >> >> I think so too! Thanks, Hell, for going back to the memory banks and >> books and writing all that out. And the site you mentioned is great -- I >> love the picture of that marbled bowling ball. It is so pure looking... >> >> Debra Shea > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 00:39:46 EDT > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2002 #274 > > In a message dated 9/21/2002 3:01:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes: > > >> Does anyone else agree that it would be a great (and not too time-consuming >> or expensive) project for Joni to return to 'Dog Eat Dog' and, keeping the >> original vocals, remaster it in a more timeless form? Just acoustic piano >> and guitar on some of those songs would be delicious! I think DED would be >> judged a lot more fairly were it more in keeping with the production of her >> other work - I truly believe they're great songs but a lot of people cant >> listen to them because of how they sound. I often sing them just myself and >> piano - songs like 'the Three Great Stimulants' and 'Impossible Dreamer' >> sound great this way. Joni probably wouldnt want to return to a finished >> project, on the other hand she certainly seems to feel it deeply when one >> of >> her 'babies' doesnt get a fair run... well, its a shame she doesn't read >> the >> list (not that she'd listen to me Im sure!)! >> > > Enough already. Dog Eat Dog's a fine recording without any revisitng. The > songs' arrangements are fine. > > ------------------------------ > > Kev wrote: 'listening to the cd I feel you get a bettre feel of what Joni wanted us to hear'
Kev I agree. The sides on the vinyl are so short -- 14-16 minutes -- -- that I felt that the album ended up seeming chopped up and sort of disconnected. I think this contributed to my lukewarm reaction to it back when it was originally released. On cd, it's one continuous experience. Although, I still feel that there's something 'off' about it. I don't know what any of the business reasons might have been for Joni to release a double album at that time, but something about it doesn't really seem to warrant a two-disc set. The amount of material doesn't really fill out two records. And artistically it just doesn't seem to hold together like, for instance, Hejira or Hissing. I've tried re-sequencing it in different ways, just for fun, to see if there's a better (in my mind) single album there. This is what I've come up with: Side One: Cotton Avenue Paprika Plains Side Two: Otis and Marlena 10th World Dreamland Don Juan's Reckless Daughter Bruce
