Exactly right. There were no volunteer human shields when Saddam was attacking the Kurds and the shi-ite minority. None to protect Afghan women from the Taliban. Or to protect Arab journalists who end up in jail for trying to report other points of view. Or to protect the people of Ireland from being buried in the bogs by the IRA. There are no human shields to protect Israelis against suicide bombers. Some causes are fashionable, some not, and that boils down to ideology and has little to do with facts, which are tailored to fit the arguments, instead of the other way round. But at least we have the freedom to be wrong in our various ways without having the secret police knocking on our doors at 3 am ready to cut our tongues out, as they do in Iraq.

I think an important question when judging the value of any regime is: where would you rather be caught shoplifting? America or Iraq, Colin? You think they're both just as bloody? Israel or the Occupied Territories? Where you rather be shoved in jail for theft? At least in America, your family would get to see you again, and you'd be let out of jail with both your hands still on your wrists.

Sarah


From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lama\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Okay. But what is this group doing to keep Iraq from running over the Kurds
again? Or Iran again? It must be an anti-USA thing or a pro-Iraq thing
cause keeping us (USA) out won't help Iran or the Kurds. (?)

Kate said,

there is a group called www.becomethechange.org that is organizing a human
shield to go to iraq in january to try & prevent an attack by the
usa....they need 5,000 people...very courageous


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