these are all very thought provoking questions.  some disclaimer: my thoughts 
are simply that...my own thoughts...not necessarily right or complete or 
finished...more of a work in process.

i'm going to have to answer your question....how does one act like a 
christian?... because options a and b don't complete my vision of a 
christian.  i should say first that i do believe option a is part of being a 
christian and is not owned by the christians and it would be offensive for 
any christian to suggest otherwise.  one can be good and moral with out being 
christian.   nonetheless, just practicing or believing with out producing 
good and moral choices does not make one a christain either.  so how does one 
act like a christian?

for me, there are several key qualities that emerge in the christian role 
modes i've found.  there is some element of self abandonment...a willingness 
to let oneself be used for other's benefit.  there is a committment to living 
within some christian community where the experience of growing in faith is 
shared and lived out together with others.  there is a genuine devotion to 
the gospels and dedication to absorbing these words into one's thoughts and 
actions.  there is the belief that humans are incomplete as individuals and 
that our 'becoming complete' is part of the christian journey and walk with 
god which lasts a lifetime and is augmented during this process by living in 
community.  there is the belief that life exceeds human death and that time 
will continue in some form.  there is the belief that redemption is essential 
to success in this life...that grace penetrates the human plane and fosters a 
better than imagined solution to great problems and discord and that time is 
the plane on which grace moves humans.  christians are therefore patient 
because time is unending and god is faithful to this promise of redemption.  
there is the hope and openness to reconciliation which usually goes along 
with redemption and offers real mending in human relationships that makes 
what was once unliveable very liveable. and there is a deep love of life and 
respect for creation that honors the life we've been given. 

this would be most of what i hold as a model of christian life and this is 
what i try to live toward though i fail endlessly and only occasionally 
succeed.  most days, the christian life sucks.  its exhausting.  it wakes us 
up at nights and early in the morning.  it strains our thoughts on all 
elements of our life.  then on good days, it supplies a ravenous love of life 
and a simplicity and humility that rejuvinates all the pain it causes on the 
off days.  at least for me it does that.  
how to identify a christian is beyond me and i don't try to do that.  i do 
think a christian is different from a muslem or an athiest or a sikh because 
the daily life i described would take that group beyond it's daily 
practices....but i do believe that on the outside of appearance one could be 
a good christian and a good muslem or sikh or athiest and not look any 
different at all.  it would be more in the internal beliefs, expectations, 
and motivations where they would differ. 

i don't think any one group is better than the others and i don't think the 
christian life is better or required for everyone....it just happens to be 
the one required of me and when i approach a day with the qualities i've 
expressed above, i feel i've lived as a christian and when i'm careless 
toward the day i feel like a heathen...regardless of how i'd lable myself.  
so for me christianity is in how we act as opposed to what we profess and 
this is a daily choice that is renewed each morning and measured each day.  
thank you for the questions.  pat
np. bruce cockburn - if i had a rocket launcher


In a message dated 1/14/2003 4:23:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> >>i beleive that a christian is christian when they act like one, not when 
> they profess to be one. <<
> 
>  Here I have to ask what you mean by christian (no explanations please, 
> Victor). Are you using the word christian a) as a synonym for good, moral 
> etc person, or b) as a definition of someone who practices or believes in 
> the Christian faith? If the former, then would you accept that a Muslim, 
> Sikh or atheist can be a good, moral person and that good works or noble 
> lives etc are not the sole prerogative of Christians? If you agree, then 
> Christian could be, by definition, synonymous with Muslim, Sikh or atheist, 
> which most people would dispute, I imagine. If your thinking is in line 
> with the second of my definitions, then I would ask you 'how does one act 
> like a Christian?' If the answer is 'by doing good deeds, living a moral, 
> respectable life, helping one's friends and neighbours etc', then what is 
> specifically 'Christian' about this? 
> 
>  
> 
> mike in barcelona

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