Les and Friends, I agree for the most part here with all the concerns raised. Being a person who has been a part of the political discussions since my beginning here (3yrs), I do see some change in the approach. I don't mind and am guilty of taking things as a personal attack and of also being sharp tongued or sarcastic, on OCCASSION. The thing that has, for me, gotten out of control is what Scott brought up, the incesstant posting on one subject, by one individual or more. TO me this illustrates a lack of concern for anything but ones opinion. And a stubborness and selfishness to do nothing but be perceived as right or to be sure to have the last word on a topic.
There are other issues that are out of our control. Such as a lull in the life and times of Joni. She is in the twilight of her career. And we have had a couple of years, from just before BSN and up to T'Logue with much Joni content, albums, personal life, accolades, etc. And then we do have the sudden turmoil in the world. Since 9/11 as Colin mentioned. The very brink of, I believe, self destruction we are on and that the world faces. So it is the times - they are a changing. All that said, we ave lost the sense of commnity, as Ashara mentioned. But there are pockets of it out there from this list that are more community like than ever. Fest goers for one have maintained a growing and thriving community which we still connect with outside of this forum. There are other places where friendships continue to grow and expand. The best thing to get us back in line, is to discuss this and develop a bit more of a conscience about our "citizenship" here. I do NOT like rules and this is where I must say limiting peoples posts for the day, or the content or even stifling those who may get a little hot under the collar, would not only take the spirit of the group away but I think would drive many out the door from the other direction. It happens either way sometimes, moderation is the key and the how often this occurs. My suggestion is now that it has come to this, people moderate yourselves and stop being selfish and stubborn, myself included. This disussion alone should help send a wake up call. And it's not to say we can't or will never go through a hard time again. The world isn't going to cure itself any day soon, we are only human here as well. Finally, in order to inject more Joni content, why not go in the acrchives, and I am so sorry I don't have the time or capabilities do do this, but from my memory, and recycle some subjects/threads. I remember when we did the desert island album thread, how many said, well that's my list today, tomorrow may be different - or maybe that was just me? Well it's a new day, year so let's have at some of them again. If we can all think or research one or two and put them out there over the next few weeks, we can get a little Joni Mo' going and perhaps we will catch fire again. Review: 1. Joni content lacking ... pull out some old threads 2. self moderation and respect for others and self control about ones being self indulgent 3. No rules or limits, as many will leave for those reasons as well 4. The times are a part of why things have gotten this out of hand Les your moderation is felt by it's very subtle touch the most and I think opening this up for discussion is another example of that. I have left a couple of remarks at the bottom that reiterate or further explain my perspective. I really tried to be careful not to finger point, although I probably did, but I apologize in advance. And there in lies why I have such bad feelings about censorship and editing and rules! So let's do a little group therapy here and get back to the garden. I love this place! Thanks to Les and all you do baby! And much love to my fellow Joniphiles. Peace, Susan David wrote: > I agree with Colin. The list ebbs and flows. Perhaps if it has indeed become > "worse," it is about to flower into something even better. However, I have greatly valued the > insights and links that people have offered about the war. Les, I think your > stewardship has been excellent and I see no need for you to change the way you are handling things. > > Colin Wrote: > All these years, I have felt Les to be an excellent list host and this > > list to be a magical place. If the paremeters and rules are changed, it > > will be lost forever. We, the members, have always more or less decided > > on how this place is. > > In the end, I fear for this list greatly now. Not because of the > > turbulence here recently, but because of the calls for contol measures. > > Once that starts, the list is finished as it is and will become just > > another fan list. > > > > we are each responsible. Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/
