I wrote:

Mack, this misses the point that at least some of those standing in
opposition
now are not against all wars, but against *this* one in particular.  And part
of the reasons we're against this one is that the stated rationale of the
U.S.
government seems inconsistent with its prior action, or inaction, in other
nations under similar circumstances.  If one of our supposed reasons for the
invasion is to separate the Iraqi people from the clutches of Saddam Hussein,
then why haven't we taken similar action in the countries Colin mentioned,
not
to mention scores of others?

It doesn't make sense--unless, of course, the "liberation" of the Iraqi
people
is not the real reason for the war, but one that our elected officials know
will be infinitely more palatable to the American public than the true
motivation.  And that is exactly what many of us strongly suspect.


And Mack responded:

"Actually Mary, I am well aware of those points as I have used them many
times
myself while in political chat.  Seriously, I am distressed that we are at
war
but can do nothing but support our troops at this time.  As always, enjoy
your
take."

Me again:  what I was really responding to, I suppose, was the assumption I
thought I saw in your earlier post that those who opposed this war would
oppose war against any of those other countries, too.  Fact is, some are
against all war, and would;  others, like myself, might, or might not.

One of the factors I use in deciding whether to lend my wholehearted support
to a military action, among many others, is consistency.  Is this action the
same as has been taken in other, similar situations?  A "no" answer is not
necessarily fatal, but that would usually be because there are other
over-arching and unambiguous reasons to intervene.

I might well support military action in those other countries, but on
different grounds (I imagine that, depending on the circumstances, consistency
might be a problem with them as well).

As for supporting the troops:  I am so very divided on this one.  I've heard
many on the left say, "But I do support the troops.  I want them to come home
safe."  However, my partner and I have ties to many in the military community.
To make this statement, and to end the matter there, ignores the fact that the
troops are there to perform a very real mission which not a few of them
believe in completely.  From their point of view, "supporting" them, without
supporting that mission, is absolutely meaningless.  So I think that this
position of those on the left is a bit disingenuous.

However, I think it's equally disingenuous for those who support the war to
attempt to "guilt" those who oppose it into "supporting the troops."  This
latter group, I think, is very *much* concentrating on the mission* of those
troops, and, I believe, is actually asking for support of the *war,* when it
comes right down to it.

Where I am now:  I feel deeply for every soldier, sailor, airman and officer
who is over there right now, and for their families.  I hope with all my heart
that they come home.  I appreciate the very real sacrifice they are making,
even though I can't approve of its purpose.

To say I support their mission, though, just because they are there now, as a
result of a decision that ignored the will of a significant portion of the
American public and the international community, is simply a statement I can't
make, because I don't.

I know you didn't say any of this, Mack!  It's just my 2 cents.

I always enjoy your take, as well.

Have a good day, all,

Mary P.

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