Howabout stan getz? Also Ritchie Valens. I'm a rocker so if I'm way off
base forgive me. I think joni stands out in her originality in general.
To my shot out ears she stands alone, and, I think she influenced a
whole bunch of other stuff I heard before her. Especially a lot of
psychedelic folk rock stuff from England. I don't know if there is any
other Arthur Lee fans out there but his songwriting and joni's have some
similarities. Although Love has a more theatrical feel, and, Arthur is a
real nut. Also Van Morrison's Astral Weeks, very poetry in motion,
although with a more van the man feel. And in terms of poetry in motion,
the thirteenth floor elevators, although I wonder if they were well
known enough to influence anyone at that time, 64, 65. 

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Randy Remote
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 11:34 AM
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Subject: Re: woman of heart and mind

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I

> admire her for branching out, but I think it's strange to say she was
a
> pioneer in world music hybrids.  George Harrison was thoroughly
employing
> Indian music in his songs back in 1966-1967, and he was quickly
followed by
> people such as Donovan and The Incredible String Band.  For that
matter, the
> U.S. version of Help! in 1965 had a version of "A Hard Day's Night"
performed
> on Indian instruments, so maybe that was the first pop/world music
hybrid. It
> certainly was that movie that turned George onto the sitar.
>

The 'world music pioneer' tag doesn't really ring true. Josephine
Baker in the '30's. Carmen Miranda in the 40's. Stan Getz and
Herbie Mann brought Brazilian music to the mainstream in the early
60's. Harry Belafonte's "Banana Boat Song", Trini Lopez' "Lemon
Tree". Even Sinatra did two LP's with Jobim. Santana crossed
latin music with rock in 1969, while Joni was 5 full albums away
from using the Barundi drums. Simon & Garfunkel's "El Condor
Pasa" used a Peruvian band in 1970. There is even a short reggae-
style break in The Beatles "I Call Your Name" from 1964. Miles
Davis' "Bitches Brew" in 1969 fused jazz and African influences..in
the world of jazz, using African and Latin influences was old news;
Dizzy Gillespie, Tito Puente,,,fingers getting tired....
RR

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